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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Remember the good ol' days when people just ranted about Iraq and Iran and didn't worry about jobs?
    Yep, then some idiot decided we should go to one of those places and prepare to go to the other and BOOM, look at what happened. I do miss those days though.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's not really black or white, but I think we need to think about whether we see ourselves as consumers or citizens. Consumers have a right to be served while citizens have rights and also responsibilities. That last thing comes in handy when we have to weigh different perceptives, choices, trade offs and be part of that decision making. For instance, it may be my right to buy cheap goods but is it responsible to buy those goods if they were made in slave shops, if in doing so, I am harming my own community by driving down wages and working conditions, etc...etc...etc....Things like labor conditions, environmental impacts, community resources like safety net usage and other things come into play with decision making.
    I like this post.

    We can be both at different times and for different reasons. When there is a free market operating based on the rule of law each of us gets to choose for ourselves what we will do, how we will exchange one form of property for another or whether or not we will.

    When governments or other criminal elements coerce us we lose both citizen status and consumer status. We become serfs.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    IMHO, I wouldn't do trade with countries who refuse to apply our standards.
    How much trade are you doing today with countries who refuse to apply our standards?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry guys, businesses built on the Wal-Mart plan need to go. The trade off is not worth it.
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    The cycle continues at every locale a new Wal-Mart springs up. It's like a frickin virus, and it needs to be cured.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Those with a tyrant's heart can be found in the strangest places.
    Sorry, my "Libertarian-Left" viewpoint is based on business models that work from enlightened self-interest, not rapacious greed. The Wal-Mart business model is one of the most selfish, short-sighted, and economically destructive in the American market. That's how I see it anyway.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Oh, I agree. I think the job is more important than cheap goods. And, China was just my example.
    Ok, so we have at least somewhat of a base to work with...So, how do we bring other nations up to our standard?
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    Sorry, my "Libertarian-Left" viewpoint is based on business models that work from enlightened self-interest, not rapacious greed. The Wal-Mart business model is one of the most selfish, short-sighted, and economically destructive in the American market. That's how I see it anyway.
    Yeah, those damned short sighted companies that have only been around for 53 years....flash in the pans!
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Yeah, those damned short sighted companies that have only been around for 53 years....flash in the pans!
    WOW! Wal-Mart had factories in Communist China 53 years ago? You don't say! I bet John F. Kennedy woulda been surprised too!
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    WOW! Wal-Mart had factories in Communist China 53 years ago? You don't say! I bet John F. Kennedy woulda been surprised too!
    I bet that Chairman Mao Zedong woulda been surprised as well.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Adverse View Post
    WOW! Wal-Mart had factories in Communist China 53 years ago? You don't say! I bet John F. Kennedy woulda been surprised too!
    Maybe they are set up in the same place that GM went....
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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