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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Subsidies?

    Wal-Mart is just one example of MULTINATIONAL CORPS. feeding at the public trough.

    Examples are; billions of public dollars in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance,/ low-cost/ zero cost financing, and grants from state and local governments. The cherry on top of this CORP cake is(from Wal-Mart’s perspective )is the public gets to chip in on the pay for its employees.

    Let’s have a hip, hip, hooray for CORP WELFARE.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    What free market That word is based on ideology because no true free market exist. Time to look at reality and what we are really dealing with-Looking at Ireland, we see that low taxes did lead to economic growth until the financial bubble burst. They were banking (no pun intended) on growing their economy through financialization. We are a consumer base economy and we should use that to our advantage as far as having those service jobs pay well enough where employees are making a middle income living. I wish we had stronger unions to set a standard of wages in this country but we don't and probably won't with the new anti-union laws going through many states. I suppose we will have to depend on the government to set a standard because big business will not.
    That is your opinion because you are looking at only part of the economy, those big "evil" corporations that aren't the backbone of the economy. What You and your ilk are doing is hurting the small businesses in this country not those big corporations.

    As for stronger unions, that is a pipe dream of someone who doesn't understand how unions have hurt this country today. If you truly cared about the workers you would demand that unions stop paying excessive salaries to their management and stopped pricing themselves out of business. I understand that some liberals like you have no problem with income but union wages and benefits drive up costs to other consumers who cannot afford what you can.

    You are so brainwashed that the govt. is the answer that you ignore the reality that the govt. is the problem. Who pays for that 3.77 trillion dollar govt? You are so concerned about corporate greed that you ignore govt. greed. Govt. takes the first dollar a business makes and will be there to take the first dollar that the new business owner makes when that old business owner is forced out of business by high costs due to govt. regulations.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Wal-Mart is just one example of MULTINATIONAL CORPS. feeding at the public trough.

    Examples are; billions of public dollars in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance,/ low-cost/ zero cost financing, and grants from state and local governments. The cherry on top of this CORP cake is(from Wal-Mart’s perspective )is the public gets to chip in on the pay for its employees.

    Let’s have a hip, hip, hooray for CORP WELFARE.

    Tax breaks mean that companies keep more of what they earn, free land and infrastructure assistance creates jobs and tax revenue for the states and local communities having nothing to do with the Federal Govt. Yes, that evil Wal-Mart that provides competitive prices for the local community, pays their share of local and state taxes, and employs thousands who also pay taxes. We need to do away with those evil companies and lets all work for the govt?

    How about a little intellectual honesty for a change from people like you rather than the jealousy and total lack of understanding of our economy?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's a false conclusion. Take Sweden
    and Ireland and compare the two
    countries. One spends far more on social spending and one far less. Whose economy is in dire straights? Loosening of financial regulations in the global economy was a bad idea. Using this economic meltdown as an excuse to restructure all countries economy is brillant. Only, real solutions are not being implemented in most places. Instead, privatization is taking place on a massive scale while many social contracts are being dismantled. The real issue was deregulations of the banks. We wouldn't even be having this discussion if the meltdown didn't happen.
    But it wasn't the "loosening of financial regulations " that caused the financial collapse.

    In fact it was NEW Regulatory functions placed on banks and our GSEs in the 90s that CAUSED the finincial collapse.

    The Frank-Dodd legislation ( two politicians that should be cooling their heels in prison over their part in the Financail Collapse ) hasn't done a thing to improve access to highly liquid and static credit markets.

    The Democrats believed their own manufactuted narratives that were used to describe the collapse and never addresses the real issues.

    Irelands economic issues are similar to ours as their Govt does everything in their power to sugar coat a endemic and systemic cancer.

    And Sweden ? They've poisoned their society with the false promise of " the benefits of a multi-cultural state".

    Now they are a just another nanny state to a population of people who will never assimilate. Providing massive amounts of perpetual Govt support as their crime rates rise.

    Sooner or later they will have to pay the piper and account for their foolishness.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    But it wasn't the "loosening of financial regulations " that caused the financial collapse.

    In fact it was NEW Regulatory functions placed on banks and our GSEs in the 90s that CAUSED the finincial collapse.

    The Frank-Dodd legislation ( two politicians that should be cooling their heels in prison over their part in the Financail Collapse ) hasn't done a thing to improve access to highly liquid and static credit markets.

    The Democrats believed their own manufactuted narratives that were used to describe the collapse and never addresses the real issues.

    Irelands economic issues are similar to ours as their Govt does everything in their power to sugar coat a endemic and systemic cancer.

    And Sweden ? They've poisoned their society with the false promise of " the benefits of a multi-cultural state".

    Now they are a just another nanny state to a population of people who will never assimilate. Providing massive amounts of perpetual Govt support as their crime rates rise.

    Sooner or later they will have to pay the piper and account for their foolishness.
    You obviously need to read into the sub-prime meltdown. Fact, most high risk sub-primes were originated by non-bank lenders. Feel free to blame poor people for it. Why change your narrative now?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You obviously need to read into the sub-prime meltdown. Fact, most high risk sub-primes were originated by non-bank lenders. Feel free to blame poor people for it. Why change your narrative now?
    Just where the hell is Franklin Raines and why isn't he in jail?
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Oh, there is an accumulation of centralized power in this country and its called private public initiatives. We are funding tons and tons and tons of tax dollars for these initiatives that go into private interest pockets. So, I will agree with your post. Things have gotten out of hand.
    Cool. Then join with me and let's return to our Constitutional moorings. You won't like it right away. Freedom is an acquired taste.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, many states don't allow public union's collective bargaining. They equally got federal money for things like their schools to function so the union thing is nothing but a strawman. Also, the paradigm shift moves away from unions through laws and diluting their power to collective bargain. The shift is to privatize and consolidating power into corporate hands. Competing voices are not aloud. What do we call it when competing voices are crushed? Since the onset of all these anti-collective bargaining laws and right to work laws in many states, union membership is down to bare bones. I'm really not sure how they are going to function anymore unless we have a national movement back toward worker's rights and setting standards for workers like decent wages but I'm not so sure if that going to happen.
    You just cannot say any truthful thing can you?

    The stimulus money went to the states to keep union members (public sector unions) employed long enough to work for and get the Marxist re-elected.

    Everything else you said is irrelevant given that central point.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Government is not stealing property. As a matter of fact, they are selling state and city assets to profiteers.
    The government steals from half of us.

    Perhaps you are in the other half.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Wal-Mart is just one example of MULTINATIONAL CORPS. feeding at the public trough.

    Examples are; billions of public dollars in tax breaks, free land, infrastructure assistance,/ low-cost/ zero cost financing, and grants from state and local governments. The cherry on top of this CORP cake is(from Wal-Mart’s perspective )is the public gets to chip in on the pay for its employees.

    Let’s have a hip, hip, hooray for CORP WELFARE.
    I cannot recall a time when I have seen so much sheer, unadulterated dumbness in one post. Next time spread the dumbness out over at least a dozen posts.

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