After the collapse, jobs had already bottomed out and had started to climb long before any federal stimulus was released, hell before ANY federal stimulus action was even mentioned.
I tell you what, you go back to 2008 and find ANY Economist that predicted a economic collapse, that predicted more job losses if Obama didn't waste nearly a TRILLION dollars.
Because here's what your President spent 90 billion dollars on. A greens jobs initiative to build a manufacturing base for a product no one wanted and that China could easily undercut our cost on.
It was literally a 6th grade science project gone awry.
I never blamed UNIONS anyway, but DID more than infer the hundreds of millions that wen't out to them was a DIRECT pay back for their support. The Collapse was due to regulations passed during the 90's by the Democrats that lowered standards for banks and for the GSE's under the false pretense of combating " redlining ".
" If no one among us is capable of governing himself, then who among us has the capacity to govern someone else ? "
Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.
Alexis de Tocqueville
Is someone who stopped looking for work due to discouragement able to get a job? No, not until they start looking? So adding them in as unemployed makes the rate worse than it really is because you're adding people who could not be hired, while the UE rate is supposed to measure those who failed to get work that month not months ago.
Therefore, since the world has still/Much good, but much less good than ill,
And while the sun and moon endure/Luck's a chance, but trouble's sure,
I'd face it as a wise man would,/And train for ill and not for good.