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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I'm showing numbers while your selling partisan hackery. No one president is responsible for our economy but each and everyone has had a hand in the direction it has gone. All (IMHO) in not so good a direction for several decades now.
    Sorry but a leader is responsible for all results generated during his term, something you don't seem to understand. The President sets the agenda and the priorities/tone for his Administration and in case you haven't been paying attention has done nothing to improve bipartisanship but rather the opposite. You talk about partisan hackery all the time but the reality is it is the Democrats doing nothing to change the tone in D.C. starting with Harry Reid sitting o dozens of bills the House passed but refusing debate in the Senate. Please tell me how that promotes bipartisanship.

    Not sure what you and others propose because I have seen nothing out of you other than claims of partisanship. Where are your solutions? Where is your understanding of leadership? Where is your sense of fairness by holding Obama responsible for his results just like you hold others responsible for theirs?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Obama has merely continued to protect the creditor class at the expense of the unemployed. I see no proof of a president put forth (paid for by big money) in front of the public that was going to change that trend whether with a D or an R put in front of his name.
    What you have seen is a "do as I say" not a do as I do President. Obama lacks the leadership skills for the job and in fact is tearing this country further apart by continuing to promote class warfare. Obama has continued to promote massive dependence and done nothing to encourage individual wealth creation because he doesn't understand it nor apparently do you.

    Regardless of whether you have an R or a D in front of your name, as a leader you have the responsibility to work with the other party. Obama has made no such attempt.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Sorry but a leader is responsible for all results generated during his term, something you don't seem to understand. The President sets the agenda and the priorities/tone for his Administration and in case you haven't been paying attention has done nothing to improve bipartisanship but rather the opposite. You talk about partisan hackery all the time but the reality is it is the Democrats doing nothing to change the tone in D.C. starting with Harry Reid sitting o dozens of bills the House passed but refusing debate in the Senate. Please tell me how that promotes bipartisanship.

    Not sure what you and others propose because I have seen nothing out of you other than claims of partisanship. Where are your solutions? Where is your understanding of leadership? Where is your sense of fairness by holding Obama responsible for his results just like you hold others responsible for theirs?
    There is no bipartisanship in Congress period.

    As for your second comment, the issue we are discussing in this thread is unemployment. A big solution would be to stop slashing government spending. It has really destructive effects on incomes and employment. Obama has the lowest record on public sector jobs and that speaks volumes as to part of the reason we are not in better recovery mode. Also, people who are yelling inflation concerns are not helping the matter either. Only one sector of people benefitting greatly from low inflation right now and it isn't the unemployed.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    What you have seen is a "do as I say" not a do as I do President. Obama lacks the leadership skills for the job and in fact is tearing this country further apart by continuing to promote class warfare. Obama has continued to promote massive dependence and done nothing to encourage individual wealth creation because he doesn't understand it nor apparently do you.

    Regardless of whether you have an R or a D in front of your name, as a leader you have the responsibility to work with the other party. Obama has made no such attempt.
    Class warfare is not being promoted but rather being demonstrated in this country. The rest of your post is not worth commenting on.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    rabbitcaebannog;1062144129]There is no bipartisanship in Congress period.
    That is true, what has Obama done to promote it? What is the role of a leader when faced with that problem?

    As for your second comment, the issue we are discussing in this thread is unemployment. A big solution would be to stop slashing government spending. It has really destructive effects on incomes and employment. Obama has the lowest record on public sector jobs and that speaks volumes as to part of the reason we are not in better recovery mode. Also, people who are yelling inflation concerns are not helping the matter either. Only one sector of people benefitting greatly from low inflation right now and it isn't the unemployed.
    Your opinion noted but what you fail to recognize is that govt. spending has been at record levels and still the problem exists. More spending isn't the answer in a private sector economy. You have seen what happens in Europe with all that govt. spending, you get dependence and European socialism.

    Keep ignoring reality, Obama has influence on public sector jobs most of which are at the state level and I explained that states have to balance the budget thus why public sector employment is down. Is Federal Employment down?

    Slashing govt. spending is the only answer because it creates more investment capital for the private sector. The answer is cutting federal spending and providing incentive to the private sector to grow, Obamacare, threats of higher taxes and more regulations stifles private sector growth thus creates the problem we have today.

    Far too many here don't understand the private sector economy at all thus comments like yours. You have been brainwashed into believing govt. spending is a major portion of GDP when it isn't. There are four components to GDP, figure out what they are and what affects those components. Stop buying what this Administration and the media tells you. Think for a change. The fourth largest budget item is interest expense on the debt. Think that debt service is improving the economy?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Class warfare is not being promoted but rather being demonstrated in this country. The rest of your post is not worth commenting on.
    LOL, that is a perfect example of someone who doesn't have a clue what is going on in this country today and the brainwashing of the left. Too bad you have bought the rhetoric and ignore the results. You seem very poorly informed on what really is happening in this country so you must be getting your information from the MSM and doing no thinking on your own.

    You think taxing the rich hasn't been proposed? You think that unemployment benefits now beyond two years isn't in place? You think that forcing small businesses to purchase healthcare for their employees benefits employment? You think that promoting part time jobs is the prescription to strong economic growth? Where do you get your information?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Regardless of whether you have an R or a D in front of your name, as a leader you have the responsibility to work with the other party. Obama has made no such attempt.


    Google, give me examples of Obama Olive Branches to the Republican Party
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Nice job of using Google, too bad it doesn't make your case. when did Obama propose extending ALL the Bush tax cuts? the reality is he proposed extending only the Middle Class tax cuts and raising them on the rich. You see, you buy headlines but never read the entire story or what led up to the story.

    Obama demonized McCain at the meeting on Healthcare reform, he tried to destroy Ryan in public regarding budget negotiations. Obama is a community agitator not a community organizer or leader

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    FFS Fenton, dictatorships are the nearly the total opposite of "liberalism", I think we have gone over that one a few hundred times. I'm glad you were able to see that I did not take the premise seriously, the question is, since we have gone over this numerous times, why you still do take the false rhetorical premise seriously. It is the stuff of Birchers....who are, ironically enough, close to dictators themselves.
    Birchers as in the anti-communist John Birchers society ? Or did you just misspell " Birthers " ? I'm looking at my "QWERTY" keyboard here and I can see that "C" is no where near "T" so I'm a bit nonplussed.

    Second, the fundamental definition Liberalism definitely supports your assertion that a Dictatorship and Liberalism would contradict each other on ideological grounds, but that's a sorry excuse for what this Liberal administration has so far been responsible for.

    The targeting or mistreatment of individuals based on the fact that they oppose the Liberal ideology is in direct contradiction to the supposed values of a true Liberal and most hard left Governments historically have either slightly evolved from dictatorships or have devolved into dictatorships.

    I can think of a couple just South of the Border of Mexico that would make a great example.

    I have no problem saying Obama would welcome with open arms a change in our Government that would allow him to MUCH have more un-contested power. Well, he and about every other Liberal politician in our Country.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Is this your idea of an Olive Branch? Notice Obama's appearance and attitude

    Obama to McCain: "The Election Is Over" - YouTube

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