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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    maybe republicans in Detroit did not know how to win elections, or they did not understand what the voting population wanted. maybe conservitives ideas of governing simply did not appeal to the people of Detroit.
    The really bad news for those liberals that kept voting for democrats in Detroit that destroyed their city is people across America have elected the same type national politicians for the White House and the senate. At least for right now, the majority of the bad off in Detroit have food stamps, welfare and unemployment. But sooner or later, the well will run dry from Uncle Sugar. Then those that kept on voting for something for nothing will only get the nothing part. And that day is on the way. Obamacare sealed that deal.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    dictatorships require absolute power. if democrats in detorit had absolute power, why did they allow elections to happen that could potentially elect their opponents into power? why did they still obey the state and federal constitutions?

    the only thing that comes close to meeting the actual definiton of being a dictator in detroit is the current emergancy financial manager, Kevin Orr, who was appointed by michgan govenor Rick Snyder to some how deal with detroits problems
    Who was voting Republican in Detroit? If blacks vote Republican they are labeled as Uncle Toms. Race sellouts, ect.

    Not sure why you are trying to even debate this. Clearly Detroit was firmly in the Democrats' grip on power. Elections in Iraq under Saddam Hussein had more credibility.

    remember what the marriam webster dictionary defininition of a dictator was?
    Democrats in Detroit had opposition? From who?

    Kevin orr was appointed emergancy financial manager for the city of Detroit by govoner Rick Snyder. Kevin Orr job gives him powers to unilatterary decide what programs or services should be cut or stoped in order to fix detroits financial problems, and he is allowed to do it without the input of the city's elected council, or the people who elected the city council.
    Well I would hope that the Governor would have some sense and get the city out of the control of Democrats. Look at what Democrats did to Detroit. Why would you want them to continue to be in charge?

    a single person is appointed and given absolute power over a city's fate, able to act without the approval of Detroit democratically elected city council, or the will of the people.
    I didn't say a single person. I said Detroit is a 1 party state under the rule of one party. The Democrats. It has been for decades. That's why the city went bankrupt.

    does that make Kevin Orr, the emergency financial manager for the city of detroit, by definition a dictator?
    Huh?

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    but it was a choice. if detroit was run by democrats weilding absolute power like you are claiming, there would have been no choice.

    but there were elections, the people of detroit made their choice and voted for their choice.
    Since when did I ever claim they didn't have a choice??

    What I've been saying forever is that they used their choice on politicians that pandered to their (progressives or unions) politics both socially and economically and now the city is done.....

    You see how that works?

    Furthermore I'm not "claiming" democrats have ruled over Detroit for the past 51 years - that is ****ing factual.

    The reason why Detroit failed is because you eventually run out of money when you buy votes -- that's why the Euro failed.

    You cant spend more than you take in. Is that a difficult concept to understand? "Progressives" and socialists have been trying to prove otherwise for the last 100 years and they all have failed in their attempts.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    The only difference between Detroit and our federal government is that one can just print money and the other needs to beg for it..

    To digress a bit...

    I have absolutely no idea how our economy hasn't completely collapsed - I suppose it really is faith.

    If your average citizen had even a remedial understanding of economics our economy would have been done years ago.......

    This **** is amazing....
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    If our President was a Republican I would wager all these people downing the numbers would be hailing them.
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Here's another very telling statistic...

    The rate in which the population increases and the workforce increases is usually a pretty similar number. For example, During the 8 years George Bush was in office the population increased 7.8% and the workforce increased slightly less at 7.1%. Under Obama however, it's quite a different story. Since he took office the workforce has increased just 1.0%, with U.S. population growth out pacing it nearly 4 fold, increasing 3.9% during that same time.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Who was voting Republican in Detroit? If blacks vote Republican they are labeled as Uncle Toms. Race sellouts, ect.

    Not sure why you are trying to even debate this. Clearly Detroit was firmly in the Democrats' grip on power. Elections in Iraq under Saddam Hussein had more credibility.



    Democrats in Detroit had opposition? From who?



    Well I would hope that the Governor would have some sense and get the city out of the control of Democrats. Look at what Democrats did to Detroit. Why would you want them to continue to be in charge?



    I didn't say a single person. I said Detroit is a 1 party state under the rule of one party. The Democrats. It has been for decades. That's why the city went bankrupt.



    Huh?
    if there election results that shows that democrats got 99% percent of the vote in every election in Detroit at the municipal level, then your claim of a one party dictatorship would have a shred of credibility. Can you provide municipal election results for the city of Detroit going as far back as the 1950s? the fact that no one can helps you make your claim.

    did democrats run unoposed for elections in detroit? any evidence you can provide to back up that claim.

    you are trying to spin recent events as the status quo for 70 years even though you cannot qoute a piece of evidence beyond the 1990s.

    as for your confusion about me claiming kevin orr being a dictator.

    considering Kevin Orr job is emergancy financial manager, a job that he was not elected to but appointed to by the govenor of michigan, is able to run the city by himself and without the citys elected council, and has powers that can used on his own authority without the need of approval by city council, who are powerless to act on behalf of the city of detroit as long as Kevin orr is in charge.

    that sounds like to me that kevin Orr has absolute power.

    and one of the definition of a dictator is
    a person granted absolute emergency power; especially : one appointed by the senate of ancient Rome

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Since when did I ever claim they didn't have a choice??

    What I've been saying forever is that they used their choice on politicians that pandered to their (progressives or unions) politics both socially and economically and now the city is done.....

    You see how that works?

    Furthermore I'm not "claiming" democrats have ruled over Detroit for the past 51 years - that is ****ing factual.

    The reason why Detroit failed is because you eventually run out of money when you buy votes -- that's why the Euro failed.

    You cant spend more than you take in. Is that a difficult concept to understand? "Progressives" and socialists have been trying to prove otherwise for the last 100 years and they all have failed in their attempts.
    just because one side has been in power for fifty years you simply can't call it a dictatorship, especially when there has been plenty of elections in Detroit over the last 70 years for the republicans to win a election.

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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    just because one side has been in power for fifty years you simply can't call it a dictatorship, especially when there has been plenty of elections in Detroit over the last 70 years for the republicans to win a election.
    You're missing the point that the electorate decided as to which party it agreed with as to governance...
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    Re: US unemployment lowest in 4 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Here's another very telling statistic...

    The rate in which the population increases and the workforce increases is usually a pretty similar number. For example, During the 8 years George Bush was in office the population increased 7.8% and the workforce increased slightly less at 7.1%. Under Obama however, it's quite a different story. Since he took office the workforce has increased just 1.0%, with U.S. population growth out pacing it nearly 4 fold, increasing 3.9% during that same time.
    Where do you come up with this ****?

    I don't have a "job" I work as an independent contractor and consultant for cash - where do I fall??? I get by but my work is spiratical at best - where do I fall? how about the millions like me who don't fill W2's out every year or just don't work because they cant find a job?

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