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    Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Ever notice how these stories are always reported on Friday?

    By Michael Kitchen
    LOS ANGELES (MarketWatch) -- The White House has approved a deal that will exempt members of Congress and their staff from some of the provisions of the Affordable Care Act, Politico reported late Thursday. Under the law, popularly referred to as Obamacare, lawmakers and their aides were required to source health insurance "created" by the law or offered through one of its exchanges, and without the subsidies they currently enjoy, the members of Congress would have faced thousands of dollars in additional premium payments each year, the report said. However, the Office of Personnel Management now plans to rule that the government can continue to make a contribution to the health-care premiums of the lawmakers and their staff, it said, citing unnamed congressional sources and a White House official.
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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ever notice how these stories are always reported on Friday?



    Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report - MarketWatch
    Hmmm, I wonder why they would want to do that......
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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Another Friday another White House document dump.

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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Isn't this old news? I remember hearing they were exempt from it a long time ago. Its just like the gun control laws they want in place. If they are going to put laws in place they should not be able to exempt themselves, if its good for us then it should be good for them as well.

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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ever notice how these stories are always reported on Friday?



    Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report - MarketWatch
    I wonder if the Obama's now, and when the President leaves office, will be shopping the exchanges for coverage or will they have a gold-plated plan for life?

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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Ever notice how these stories are always reported on Friday?



    Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report - MarketWatch
    Remember that "saving money" by lowering health care costs was the stated goal of the PPACA law. Why would Obama not want to save the taxpayers all of that money?

    The more we learn of "what's in the bill" the less popular it becomes. Naturally, King Barrack, is able to "fine tune" the implementation of the PPACA law all by using his own magical executive powers. The unions (public and private) are now very upset as they have supposedly lost their ability to offer "better" medical insurance plans to their members. That equal treatment under the law is most inconvenient for the friends of Barrack, so it must be waived, out of "fairness", of course.
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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Remember that "saving money" by lowering health care costs was the stated goal of the PPACA law. Why would Obama not want to save the taxpayers all of that money?

    The more we learn of "what's in the bill" the less popular it becomes. Naturally, King Barrack, is able to "fine tune" the implementation of the PPACA law all by using his own magical executive powers. The unions (public and private) are now very upset as they have supposedly lost their ability to offer "better" medical insurance plans to their members. That equal treatment under the law is most inconvenient for the friends of Barrack, so it must be waived, out of "fairness", of course.
    The one thing that has me wondering about the whole shootin' match is why!!! is it taking until October 1st to see the rates? You can bet those rates are already in place and have been for some time.
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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    The one thing that has me wondering about the whole shootin' match is why!!! is it taking until October 1st to see the rates? You can bet those rates are already in place and have been for some time.
    The same reason that the employer mandate was put "on hold"; once the true financial impact of PPACA is seen the less popular its (all demorat) supporters will be at the polls. Imagine the headlines if our congress critters had to admit that PPACA required them to spend more tax money on their own staffs. Better to punish only those "greedy" private employers and add tax payer subsidies for the "little guy"; PPACA is all about income reddistribution and more federal control of "private" medical care insurance.

    It makes ZERO difference what medical care insurance premiums actually cost to those that pay a fixed amount (2% to 4%) of their AGI at the exchanges. By causing "private" medical care insurance premiums rates to rise, it is hoped the pressure will mount for the huge nanny state to come to the rescue to fix the problem, that it helped to create.
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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Am I reading this wrong? It sounds like this isn't an exemption, rather just a ruling that federal health benefits do, in fact, apply to purchasing insurance on the new exchange.

    So, to clarify:

    Congress and their aids are not "exempt" from Obamacare. They never have been. What came up recently was that while Congress and their aids were required by Obamacare to participate in the newly-created exchanges, it wasn't clear that the current health care subsidies that all federal employees get would be applicable to the exchange. There wasn't a clear ruling that they were allowed to apply that subsidy to the new exchanges.

    This report clarifies that yes, they can do that. They get the same benefits as before, and are still required to purchase a plan on the new exchanges.

    Somebody explain to me the problem.
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    Re: Congress to get Obamacare exemption: report

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Am I reading this wrong? It sounds like this isn't an exemption, rather just a ruling that federal health benefits do, in fact, apply to purchasing insurance on the new exchange.

    So, to clarify:

    Congress and their aids are not "exempt" from Obamacare. They never have been. What came up recently was that while Congress and their aids were required by Obamacare to participate in the newly-created exchanges, it wasn't clear that the current health care subsidies that all federal employees get would be applicable to the exchange. There wasn't a clear ruling that they were allowed to apply that subsidy to the new exchanges.

    This report clarifies that yes, they can do that. They get the same benefits as before, and are still required to purchase a plan on the new exchanges.

    Somebody explain to me the problem.
    Exactly. Here's an article from fact check back in May.

    Members of Congress and their staffs would be the only employees of a large employer in the exchanges...
    [...]
    The concern, as a Roll Call story explained, was that the government wouldn’t be able to make contributions toward the federal employees’ premiums, at least at the beginning of 2014. That would mean employees would pick up the whole tab for their insurance policies. Right now, the government pays 72 percent of premiums on average.


    Congress and an Exemption from ‘Obamacare’? | FactCheck.org
    The exchange wasn't intended to be for companies that already provided health coverage for their employees. So, how did Congress get put in the exchange?

    Why, like other parts of Obamacare, it was a Republican idea....LOL...


    Here’s how it happened: Back during the Affordable Care Act negotiations, Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) proposed an amendment forcing all members of Congress and all of their staffs to enter the exchanges. The purpose of the amendment was to embarrass the Democrats. But in a bit of jujitsu of which they were inordinately proud, Democrats instead embraced the amendment and added it to the law.


    No, Congress isn’t trying to exempt itself from Obamacare
    “We just simply don’t know how to govern” - Rep. Steve Womack (R-AR) a member of the House Budget Committee

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