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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This is false. The US trained forces in Afghanistan formed the Northern Alliance following the Soviet withdrawal from the region. The Northern Alliance was the voice of moderate Islam and the chief source of resistance to radical Islam in Afghanistan.

    I always find it funny when we see videos of Radical Islamists toting AK-47s and ME dictators waving at parades of T-74s while hearing from the peanut gallery that this is all America's fault.
    I'm not saying it's exactly our fault, or that we're getting our comeuppance. Merely that we had a hand and our interventionist policies and decades of meddling in the affairs of others has oft come to bite us in the ass.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I woke up, still shocked. Ikari:

    #1- Doesn't know the difference between the mujahideen and Azzam's Service Office, who funded which, and what Bin Laden was a part of (clue: the US and ISI funded Hekmatyar and Massoud, they never financed the Arabs in Pakistan/Afghanistan because they were barely a blip on the radar, do some simple reading, man).

    #2- Doesn't know that there was a wealth disparity during the Gilded Age that puts the current one to shame.

    #3- Doesn't know that South Africa went from a nuclear, possibly aggressive power and is now simply a human rights concern and not an international security concern.

    #4- Continues to change time frames when I asked him and he specifically said "since the US started to become interventionist" which is universally considered to be the 1890s.

    Why would you talk about things when you know nothing of them? You think government is too big? Great. That's your opinion. You think the US gave money or training to Osama bin Laden? You either gloss over/are ignorant to facts or you're a conspiracy theorist, there's no other options.
    Hey look at that. A temper tantrum and post of insults...not surprising; but as I said emotion and insult do not make argument. Come back when you can figure that out.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yes, but I do believe that to because there is little to no difference in the Republocrats



    True, but this should not all be on the President, the President isn't supposed to be that powerful. This should be on Congress, they're to be the most powerful branch of government. Of course it's a simplification, but in general the things necessary to get the country back on track will have to be Congress



    Perhaps, or perhaps it would leave them more susceptible to corruption. If they can only serve X years and they're out, there's more incentive to perhaps pass some favorable laws for a corporation and at the end of the tenure, retire from politics and take a high paying, do nothing job with said corporation. Of course, that's what happens now, so it's not like we aren't already there.



    Because the political process is so closed off and now pretty much only party backers and the very wealthy can run, the people who make up our politicians are not the ones particularly well inclined towards volunteerism. Mostly just shoring up the powers and privileges of the aristocracy.
    You're Right about the average guy on the block or even with the Schooling, isn't going to have a chance without the money. Even if he were to win the Popular vote.

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I'm not saying it's exactly our fault, or that we're getting our comeuppance. Merely that we had a hand and our interventionist policies and decades of meddling in the affairs of others has oft come to bite us in the ass.
    It's not the intervention that Radical Islam hates, it's the cultural influence. They fight against modernity and tolerance.

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Hey look at that. A temper tantrum and post of insults...not surprising; but as I said emotion and insult do not make argument. Come back when you can figure that out.
    That's not a temper tantrum, there's just no point in debating someone who didn't know facts. What's the use? I talk about South Africa no longer having nuclear weapons and you say something about its domestic problems? Come on.
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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    It's not the intervention that Radical Islam hates, it's the cultural influence. They fight against modernity and tolerance.
    Perhaps they do, but our interventionism fuels anger and hatred against the West, and that plays right into the propaganda and recruitment of terrorist organizations.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That's not a temper tantrum, there's just no point in debating someone who didn't know facts. What's the use? I talk about South Africa no longer having nuclear weapons and you say something about its domestic problems? Come on.
    You said that South Africa wasn't any better after our interventionism. It really isn't.

    So enough of your emotional outbursts and insults. When you can figure out how to debate come back, till then I have no need to entertain your tantrums and insults.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Ah I see No knowledge of what the Democrat Brzezinski himself has admitted to and on MSNBC as well as on NBC.

    Was Osama Bin Laden a CIA operative code named, "Tim Osman"?

    Osama Bin Laden was a contract operative of the CIA and was recruited long before 9/11.

    Osama Bin Laden traveled to the United States and toured military bases and the White House. He used a CIA code-name, “Tim Osman”, and was looking for help against the Soviets.
    http://www.orlingrabbe.com/binladin_timo…

    Osama Bin Laden was officially recruited into the CIA in 1979. His activities were backed by the CIA, which, like him, had an account at BCCI Bank.
    FAIR: Fairness & Accuracy In Reporting

    Bin Laden’s group of Afghans received backing from the CIA.
    http://www.globalresearch.ca/articles/BR…
    http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Afghan…

    Bin Laden’s CIA ties became well-known in April 1998, when MSNBC exposed his connections to the Agency.
    Bin Laden comes home to roost | NBC News

    The Papist-controlled US Government has claimed that it broke it’s ties with Bin Laden long before 9/11. However, an FBI insider said that Bin Laden was employed by the CIA until the very day of 9/11.
    The BRAD BLOG : Ryland: A Sibel Edmonds 'Bombshell' - Bin Laden Worked for U.S. Until 9/11

    There is some evidence to support her story. In July 2001 (Two months before 9/11), French media reported that a local CIA chief met with Osama Bin Laden at an American hospital in Dubai.
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2001/nov…

    There is absolutely no doubt that Osama Bin Laden and his associates are CIA. Thus, they are subservient to the Papist Crime Network. The CIA is a front operation for the Jesuits/Vatican.

    Was Osama Bin Laden a CIA operative code named, "Tim Osman"? - Yahoo! Answers

    "Uhm" .....like as in. So much for Conspiracy Theories. See the one thing they could never get round.....was the pictures of him here touring in the US and on US Army Bases.
    Lol...uh....no.
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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You said that South Africa wasn't any better after our interventionism. It really isn't.

    So enough of your emotional outbursts and insults. When you can figure out how to debate come back, till then I have no need to entertain your tantrums and insults.
    Stop being so emotional. I didn't say anything about South Africa being better. I gave a list of nuclear threats through the years. You talked about crime lol
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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Stop being so emotional. I didn't say anything about South Africa being better. I gave a list of nuclear threats through the years. You talked about crime lol
    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    South Africa isn't any better?
    And no, it's not really all the better.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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