OldWorldOrder
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You never addressed the point. You posted a graph that had nothing to do with what you were claiming it had something to do with. I don't care how far you go back, but our interventionism in the ME which really took off near the end of/after WW II. It was in 1944 that the UK and US split up the ME for oil concerns. We've been meddling ever since.
Okay, great answer. Very mature.
So next, this exchange:
We're much safer than the 1960s, of course. We're not under the threat of nuclear war. Terrorism is about the democratization of violence, via technology, and that has very little to do with American policy. What American policy could've completely avoided twitter?
Are we? We no longer have the Soviet Union it's true. But we're worried about North Korea having weapons, Iran going nuclear, Russia not being able to account for all its nukes, etc.
And? We were worried about North Korea before that. Pakistan before that. India before that. South Africa before that. Israel before that. These things have nothing to do with American policy.
Not quite to this extent. Pakistan we still worry about, didn't really improve that. South Africa isn't really any better. We still involve ourselves with Israel. Interventionism has fueled a lot of the conflicts.
South Africa isn't any better? Why are you talking about things you know nothing about? This is on par with the 'US trained OBL' escapade.
It's one of the most crime ridden countries on the planet. The Western world just doesn't really care much about Africa anymore. It's not that it's gotten better. Africa in general is rather messed up and we don't really pay much mind.
(We stopped talking about it there, as the issues you were having with facts were piling up at an alarming rate, making it clear that there wouldn't be a rewarding discussion with you.
Why did you talk about how South Africa "isn't really any better" when we're clearly talking about nuclear proliferation? Why would you do that? Did you
#1- not know that South Africa used to have nuclear weapons, and that obviously now the nuclear situation there is better?
#2- want to move the goalposts just to try to 'win' a discussion?
#3- other
Neither #1 nor #2 reflect very positively upon you, I must say, so I hope there's a third option there. Then, as the problems mounted up (the four I specified), I stopped having a debate with you.
EDIT: For the sake of completeness, I added the further exchanges.
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