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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    The Boland Amendment was a poorly written amendment that was open to interpretation and was easily for those Americans who refused to stop fighting the Cold War to get around including the Reagan administration.

    The Boland Amendment was just another attempt by the radical Left in Congress to have America surrender and stop fighting the Cold War.

    The big question should be, who paid for those obsolete Hawk and Stinger missiles ? Not the U.S. Government.
    Anyone who ever bought a six pack of Coor's back during the 1980's probably helped armed the Contras.

    But the Iran Contra "scandal" is history. It was just one battle of the Cold War and the endgame was, our side won and the left in America and the Soviets lost.

    I learned a long time ago that when you see something that isn't right but doesn't involve you it may be best to keep your mouth shut. But when it leads to murder, one doesn't necessary have to go public but be willing to testify under oath what he saw or knows.

    Does Col. Jim Sabow ring a bell ?
    You would have to go back to the beginning of the discussion to get why Iran-Contra was in the discussion. I take your point about the Boland Amendment. The story of Col. Sabow is a sad one, but it's not really germane to this discussion.
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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Air America did not run drugs either.

    Air America - Official Web Site for Air America

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    I tend to agree. I've only known one individual who flew for Air America and he also says it's all a bunch of BS.

    What I do know about what was going on back then, it wasn't the CIA, Army, Navy or Marines who were smuggling drugs from SE Asia into the CONUS but individual airmen who were stationed in Thailand. Because those individuals were serving in the Air Force at the time doesn't mean that the Air Force was in the drug business.

    I seem to remember when a sailor got busted on a destroyer for trying to smuggle heroin in to Hawaii back in 71. It was the CID who busted him. Some would say the Navy was in the drugs smuggling business. It was just one sailor breaking the law. That's why the military has CID, or criminal investigation units.

    Back during the 60's and 70's I had friends who had friends serving in Germany and would send a few ounces of hashies through the mail, does that mean that the U.S. Army was smuggling hash from Germany to the USA ? I don't think so.

    Rep. Maxine Waters (D) can still be seen on Saturday nights standing on the corner of Florence and Western Ave. along with the hookers trying to score crack from a CIA operative drug pusher. After almost three decades she still hasn't been able to find her CIA drug connection.

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    You would have to go back to the beginning of the discussion to get why Iran-Contra was in the discussion. I take your point about the Boland Amendment. The story of Col. Sabow is a sad one, but it's not really germane to this discussion.
    I was just curious if you were aware of the Col. Sabow incident. Nothing more needs to be said on this thread or on the DP.

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Oct 11, 2012- President Obama, "...and today, al-Qaeda is on the run and Osama bin Laden is dead."

    Absurd when he said it but to his non thinking supporters, it sounded good so that was good enough, damn the facts. Of course an Obama supporter would probably claim Obama was telling the truth if an al-Qaeda member ran a car packed with explosives into one of our embassies and blew it up. You know, they were "on the run" until the bomb blew. That would be the standard type twist an Obama supporter puts on for just about everything the man touches.

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    So you was CIA? Briefed or knows the full details to include possible threats toward the CIA op? I'd say the Ambassador doesn't know all the details, nor wants to know. I am not saying the State Dept didn't know the CIA was running an OP in Benghazi, State gave them the 'securing regime weapons' cover, am saying it was not part of State's job to secure the Benghazi facility- that was for the CIA. State wasn't running around Libya looking for weapons- it just made a good cover for Americans moving weapons around.

    My point is State didn't know a **** storm was about to descend on Benghazi. The CIA did a for **** job managing security and the Ambassador, most likely called to visit by the CIA, paid the price along with his 'IT' consultant and two CIA hired Guns. The CIA screwed the pooch, plain and simple. But sometimes the pooch gets screwed- FIDO. Who's head(s) roll is a CIA matter, not a public hearing Congress matter.
    This is fascinating information. You appear to have insight of a deeply involved nature, to be able to speak to the particulars of a Chief of Mission briefing to the Ambassador like that. Are you sure you should be posting this on a debate forum instead of going to (say) CNN, or perhaps your SSO?

    What does rub me the wrong way is a select few never risked a paper cut 'conservatives' are trying to use this for political gain. Now even that is expected- not honorable but expected- but I doubt the operation closed down because of the Benghazi BS so there are still men and women out there and these asshats are running around flinging spittle in the vain and somewhat forlorn hope the GOP can both avoid a split off of the tea party and so dirty the Dems that they can't win more seats in '14 and so dirty Hillary she can't run in '16.
    Ah, the old chickenhawk fail. Take a look around, NQR. You've got a lot of recent combat vets on this forum - guess which way they lean on this? Guess what they think about the idea of abandoning your people on the ground?

    "Phony" Scandals don't come home in body bags.

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post

    My point is State didn't know a **** storm was about to descend on Benghazi.
    This would be laughable except there is a chance you may be correct.

    Remember why the Libya misadventure started to begin with according to Obama? "Thousands of people" are going to be killed he said. So what does he do to prevent that, he kills (or has killed) thousands of people to overthrow a reformed terrorist supporter who for the last several years had been toeing the line that the western world had wanted him to. Reckon more than just a few people might have been a little upset about that? Or how about arming members of al-Qaeda (our sworn enemy) along the way to accomplish that foolish task? None of it made any sense.

    So yes, there is a chance that the incompetents running State had no clue as to what was about to take place. They were incapable of thinking the mission through to begin with total incompetence at the top. Any warnings or criticisms about their blundering ways would have been quickly shot down as this administration does on everything else. And of course we have witnessed the aftermath. Lie after lie after lie. Stonewall, misdirect, call it phony, whatever it takes to hope it all goes away.

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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This Sunday is Obama's Birthday.....The US is being Threatened that our Embassies in the ME, will be hit. This is all we are being told at this time. Other than it may go beyond this Sunday. Thoughts upon the matter?



    The United States is closing all of its embassies Sunday in the Middle East and parts of Asia because of a possible al-Qaeda-related threat to diplomatic posts worldwide, American officials told NBC News on Thursday.

    The U.S. has been "apprised of information that out of an abundance of caution and care for our employees and others who may be visiting our installations, that indicates we should institute these precautionary steps," said State Department spokeswoman Marie Harf.

    A senior State Department official told NBC News that all embassies that are usually open in Sundays — primarily those in Muslim countries and Israel — would be closed Aug. 4 "out of an abundance of caution." Sunday is a normal workday in those countries.

    Sunday is President Barack Obama's 52nd birthday, and it's also the day Iran inaugurates Hassan Rowhani as its new president. But U.S. officials told NBC News they had heard nothing to indicate that the date was chosen for either of those reasons.....snip~

    US closing embassies in Mideast for a day amid possible Qaeda threat

    I don't really understand why they do this. The threat will exist beyond just this one day and closing for one day does nothing more than disrupt the functions of the embassies. Most terrorist cells use, relative to the time, primitive means to attach their targets. Which means that simply changing the date of the attack is easily done. Closing for a day will really do nothing in preventing an attack. All it does is legitimize the people who wish or threaten to attack us.
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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I don't really understand why they do this. The threat will exist beyond just this one day and closing for one day does nothing more than disrupt the functions of the embassies. Most terrorist cells use, relative to the time, primitive means to attach their targets. Which means that simply changing the date of the attack is easily done. Closing for a day will really do nothing in preventing an attack. All it does is legitimize the people who wish or threaten to attack us.
    If the target(s) is/are our embassy/embassies then the closures disrupt the attack(s) and buy more time for our guys to figure out who/what/where.
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    Re: US Closing Embassies in Mideast for a Day amid Possible Qaeda Threat.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Capster78 View Post
    I don't really understand why they do this. The threat will exist beyond just this one day and closing for one day does nothing more than disrupt the functions of the embassies. Most terrorist cells use, relative to the time, primitive means to attach their targets. Which means that simply changing the date of the attack is easily done. Closing for a day will really do nothing in preventing an attack. All it does is legitimize the people who wish or threaten to attack us.
    Heya Capster. Well.....Like I mentioned earlier in the thread. We will need to stay on point until 911. Not relax things down at the end of Aug. Wish we could go proactive and target any Sunni Clerics that open their mouths to try and get people to rise up against us. Especially any tied to AQ and the MB.

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