Frankly I think it has been too publicised for any such terrorist act to take place..
Jeez..I'm glad I'm not flying anywhere this week-end..we are virtually stripped naked at the border control as it is..
Strangely enough..you can walk into the UK without any such rigmarole..
Airline made me strip out of my shorts at the check-in desk because staff thought they were too revealing, says law student, 18 | Mail Online
If we must have an enemy at the head of Government, let it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures.
- Alexander Hamilton. Spiritual father of #NeverTrump
Run your own nation, play Cybernations."Conservatism is the blind and fear-filled worship of dead radicals."
- Mark Twain
They were interviewing people here asking them what they thought of this. Many were concerned but not going to give up or change their travel plans.
I had a friend show me what one first class ticket to the UK costs. With all that people go thru just to fly somewhere. I think one could save up their money and buy their own plane for another 40k. Sheesh.
What a scam traveling has become.
You attended the briefings given the SoS? How is Iran/Contra not valid? The CIA and National security team ran guns, men, cash and supposedly drugs through the countries bordering Nicaragua and the Ambassadors didn't know? if the State coordinates all foreign policy then State had to know something, your logic is flawed.
More like the Ambassador knew a CIA OP was going on but the details were not divulged. Diplomats have to at least maintain an appearance of clean hands in the foreign relations community. Just as every embassy has a 'cultural attache' or 'communications consultant' with diplomatic immunity the State dept is an umbrella for CIA ops, but the diplomats are not privy to what all the CIA does on station.
I'm sure Hillary knew Benghazi was a CIA op, that is why she was very careful in how she answered a few questions about weapons, Syria, Turkey- but I don't think she knew any details nor was privy to any specific threats toward the CIA op center.
One detail I have wondered about- IF the State dept was actually running the weapons clean-up then who was the Head Fred, the man/woman in-charge on the ground?
What Department of State official was running Benghazi?
So bottomline who controls what, who is responsible for what-
State runs the above board foreign relations, the CIA the under the table stuff.
Hillary knows of most major operations the CIA conducts but not day to day activities, CIA in house threat evaluations concerning those ops, nor what measures are in place in case of a major incident. Benghazi was CIA from start to finish- they dropped their own hot potato, the Ambassador wandered into something he should have stayed out of.
State supports the CIA station Chiefs but does not coordinate nor in any way dictate the CIA operations.
I liken it to a hotel owner renting a room to a whore. Yes the owner knows she is a whore but as long as she doesn't parade around naked infront of the hotel he looks the other way and keeps clean sheets on the bed. but the owner doesn't stand outside the door incase a trick decides to give the whore a good beat down instead of money. The owner doesn't keep a few thugs on hand to rush to the whore's aid if she is getting a beat down. That is on the whore.
But I'll bet your 30 some years you claim in experience that NO SoS every knew ALL CIA OPS, and we will exclude the found out ones that were patently illegal from drugs out of SE Asia, Columbia, Iran/Contra, but as our dear friends on the radical right will quickly say- IF the CIA was running weapons to Syria they would call that illegal as well.
So using some 'patently illegal' label regarding CIA OPs leaves me thinking your 30 some years didn't get too close to the nitty gritty as we say....
The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man. ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman
I can understand some of the agents who have families and put paycheck above doing the right thing so they will refrain from speaking out. What I don't understand about Maggie's post was the implication, later called 'reward', of early retirement and pension, used to silence so many agents. (That does knock out the career part- that is over once the pension mentioned) I can't see ALL the agents staying quiet if wrong doing happened. I damn sure don't see it as a reward as she tried to claim later. The OP blew up and an Ambassador was killed- the CIA frowns on splashy headlines and boy-howdy there were some splashy headlines!
Now if you want to put yourself in someone else's shoes how about this-
The numbers bandied about on how many agents were present that night are quite varied- over 20, over 60... so lets just say 40. Out of 40 how many agents who risk their lives daily are married with children? bet far fewer than half but lets say half. So 20 young proud dedicated young men and women single and risking life and limb daily. If found out they risk a slow torturous death.
So these 20 brave single young people find out the State Dept could have intervened but didn't, the Military could have intervened but didn't, the CIA could have intervened but didn't and their brothers in arms died. left hanging in the wind for hours to die. The Commander in Chief slept while brave Americans died. Hillary ignored repeated emails, the military was told to stand down, the CIA- well I have no idea what the CIA did or didn't do....
Not one of the 20 is willing to stand up for their fallen comrades? Not one????
So lets try this, the dead CIA contract labor is seen by the 'real' agents as simple hired muscle who failed to do their job- sucks to be them. The covert mission which uses the cover of 'securing regime weapons' has to continue. Agents across the Middle East are still in dangerous positions, exposing the covert op would endanger many 'real' CIA agents. Hard Right Rabble Rousing Republicans are more concerned with a shot at political advantage in 2014 and sullying Hillary anyway they can before 2016 than the lives, families, and careers of those agents still in harm's way. These agents hate the poor security and lax attitude at the OP Center in Benghazi, don't have a warm fuzzy for how poorly that part of the OP was handled, but they are dedicated and the OP must be having some sort of positive feedback- sort of like the very beginning of Arms to the Afghans in Reagan's era. (We didn't start out bragging about hauling weapons to fight the Roosian in Afghanistan- it wasn't until Stingers were introduced and it was difficult to deny our involvement did Reagan stand and sell it as a good thang)
Of the two scenarios I'd hate to think it is a whole herd of easy to cow agents and would rather think the agents are sucking it up so the mission continues.