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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    What happened to Hillary's reset button?

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    I wonder, Vance, if Putin loves Putin more than Obama loves Obama.
    Im no fan of Obama, but ABSOLUTELY...Putin is obsessed with Putin. When Putin goes home at night I am sure he stands in front of the mirror and admires the great gift to mankind that is Putin. Obama...lets be honest. Dood goes home and after he closes the door and is safely alone crawls into a corner and whimpers "holy ****...I havent a clue what I am doing!!!"

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    It must be tempting to release a statement:

    All Russian defectors, intelligence agents and anyone who wants to leak Russian intel will be welcomed by the US for asylum. Let the Russian exodus begin.

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im no fan of Obama, but ABSOLUTELY...Putin is obsessed with Putin. When Putin goes home at night I am sure he stands in front of the mirror and admires the great gift to mankind that is Putin. Obama...lets be honest. Dood goes home and after he closes the door and is safely alone crawls into a corner and whimpers "holy ****...I havent a clue what I am doing!!!"
    True, and very, very funny. Obama might want to consider some shirtless photo ops with Beyonce and wild stallions, sharks, cougars - something. He's going to have to up his game a bit if he wants to compete.

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Then after one year, no one will need him.

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport ? RT News

    What is the up side to Russia to grant asylum to Snowden?
    To give the U.S. a poke in the eye.

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia, leaves airport ? RT News

    What is the up side to Russia to grant asylum to Snowden?
    There are several possibilities:

    1. Russia can position itself as a state to which others in Snowden's position might flee (with Russia reaping intelligence-related benefits).
    2. Russia can gain leverage for the extradition of suspects from its country (not all of whom are true political dissidents). Putin and others have complained that Russia's requests for extradition of suspects are routinely ignored.
    3. Russia has calculated that the shared interests between the U.S. and Russia on critical matters where cooperation continues, precludes any significant downgrade of U.S.-Russia relations that would affect those areas.
    4. Russia has also witnessed the continuing erosion of U.S.-Russia relations under both the Bush and Obama Administrations, the trend continuing despite the latter's much-publicized "reset," and has concluded that it doesn't have too much to lose (points 3 and 4 are interrelated).

    In short, Russia has made a cost-benefit guess and assumed that the costs of offering temporary asylum (which it can always refuse to renew, giving it flexibility should its cost-benefit assessment prove inaccurate) are not prohibitive relative to the benefits it has very likely already received (intelligence information related to the NSA) and it can receive (perhaps greater leverage on extradition requests and future intelligence-related information).

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Putin gave him one year to find a Russian bride before he becomes a citizen.

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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    There are several possibilities:

    1. Russia can position itself as a state to which others in Snowden's position might flee (with Russia reaping intelligence-related benefits).
    2. Russia can gain leverage for the extradition of suspects from its country (not all of whom are true political dissidents). Putin and others have complained that Russia's requests for extradition of suspects are routinely ignored.
    3. Russia has calculated that the shared interests between the U.S. and Russia on critical matters where cooperation continues, precludes any significant downgrade of U.S.-Russia relations that would affect those areas.
    4. Russia has also witnessed the continuing erosion of U.S.-Russia relations under both the Bush and Obama Administrations, the trend continuing despite the latter's much-publicized "reset," and has concluded that it doesn't have too much to lose (points 3 and 4 are interrelated).

    In short, Russia has made a cost-benefit guess and assumed that the costs of offering temporary asylum (which it can always refuse to renew, giving it flexibility should its cost-benefit assessment prove inaccurate) are not prohibitive relative to the benefits it has very likely already received (intelligence information related to the NSA) and it can receive (perhaps greater leverage on extradition requests and future intelligence-related information).
    This analysis has got to be just spot on. Thank you.
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    Re: Snowden granted 1-year asylum in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The upside is that, for that part of the world that sees the US as being the most dangerous and cruel country operating in the world today (think drones here and there), Russia appears as being concerned with truth and justice.

    Russia is seen as the UNUnited States. It has now replaced the US as the place where political refugees go.


    Looks like John Kerry will need to pull Hilary's "overload" button out of moth balls.

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