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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I can't help but wonder how the Russians plan to test athletes for gayness.
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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I don't care one way or another here, it is after all just a celebration of athletic excellence every two years that only a very few get to participate in and a very few in a host country get to personally observe. But I would make two points on this:

    1) To my knowledge, gays at the Olympics are no more promiscuous or lacking in self-control than heterosexuals are at the games. It's why the games provide upwards of 100,000 condoms to the athletes, perhaps more since that's the last number I heard.

    2) It has become somewhat of a tradition that there is a "Pride House" or whatever they call it where gay athletes and their families from around the world congregate during the games and such a place likely won't be provided in Sochi.

    I believe this is simply politicians being politicians and much ado about nothing in the end and young people from around the world will congregate, do what young people generally do - have fun, drink, have sex, have more sex, make friends and go home, some with shiny medals around their necks, some without, and all having for the most part enjoyed the cultural and athletic experience.
    Learning is always good, and you provided me with knowledge I had not previously had.

    I was totally unaware of the providing of condoms and had NO knowledge of the "Pride House".

    The Olympics are not really high on my list, hence my lack of knowledge. This is not to say I do not see the advantage of the events. On the occasion I watch any part, I tend to keep the volume on mute. The announcers just irritate the bedunky (neologism) out of me.

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    The Olympic Village and the host cities have long been the scene of extraordinary sexual activity. You are bringing together the most physically fit, virile, young people on the planet and putting them in close quarters with each other for weeks at a time while upping their adrenaline and endorphin rush through competition. The moralist brigade can take a back seat to human nature and an Olympic tradition that goes back decades. If Russia is going to be this intolerant it can enjoy the public relations fiasco that will accompany it and set the standard for countries that will not be graced by the IOC for a long time to come.

    Case and point: The local Olympic committees and often the IOC have for years and years provided thousands of condoms free of charge to athletes when they arrive at the games.
    All the talk in this topic - nonsense. Was an American writer and historian Robert Conquest, who wrote the book, "What to do, when the Russian come . Guide to Survival". This crazy writer, gave advice, "You will, of course, be able to recognize members of the Soviet army by their uniform. Should you by some mischance encounter them in the open air or on the sidewalk, stand aside, or step off the curb, and keep your eyes down. Do not attempt any kind of heroics or dumb insolence. Russians are not famous for their sense of humor, and what sense of humor they possess is notoriously capricious. Take no liberties. These are mean people. In particular secret police troops — of whom there will be many — have done unspeakable things to their own countrymen, and there is no reason to suppose that they would not behave with a total lack of pity toward conquered Americans." In this theme parties recall this idiot writer. No one read Russian law on homosexuals, but talk about it all. Read original law, and not as the media presents..... And Russian everyone knows - they look so. * laughs *

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by Tovarish View Post
    All the talk in this topic - nonsense. Was an American writer and historian Robert Conquest, who wrote the book, "What to do, when the Russian come . Guide to Survival". This crazy writer, gave advice, "You will, of course, be able to recognize members of the Soviet army by their uniform. Should you by some mischance encounter them in the open air or on the sidewalk, stand aside, or step off the curb, and keep your eyes down. Do not attempt any kind of heroics or dumb insolence. Russians are not famous for their sense of humor, and what sense of humor they possess is notoriously capricious. Take no liberties. These are mean people. In particular secret police troops — of whom there will be many — have done unspeakable things to their own countrymen, and there is no reason to suppose that they would not behave with a total lack of pity toward conquered Americans." In this theme parties recall this idiot writer. No one read Russian law on homosexuals, but talk about it all. Read original law, and not as the media presents..... And Russian everyone knows - they look so. * laughs *
    You make a solid point with a lot of cogent easily decipherable arguments. I'd never really thought about it that way before.

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by AuntiE View Post
    After having read all comments, I have one general question.

    Is the premise that athletes who have same gender proclivities are so lacking in self-control or discipline they are unable to restrain themselves for four weeks while in a foreign country to participate in the Olympics? Is the premise these athletes, who have worked and trained for years, are going loose focus for four weeks over this issue. It is four weeks out of years in their lives. Russia may publicly put this law out there; however, ate you all so totally benighted as to think China would not have had the same law but not so publicly stated. Russia's law may be egregious but they are a sovereign nation. Athletes at all Olympics have to follow the laws of the nation in which they are participating.
    Anyone who visits a foreign country must be prepared to either obey that nation's laws, or pay a penalty for breaking them.

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I can't help but wonder how the Russians plan to test athletes for gayness.



    Lots of people all over this planet waste a lot of time worrying about gay people that could be used in productive work.

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by AuntiE View Post
    After having read all comments, I have one general question.

    Is the premise that athletes who have same gender proclivities are so lacking in self-control or discipline they are unable to restrain themselves for four weeks while in a foreign country to participate in the Olympics? Is the premise these athletes, who have worked and trained for years, are going loose focus for four weeks over this issue. It is four weeks out of years in their lives. Russia may publicly put this law out there; however, ate you all so totally benighted as to think China would not have had the same law but not so publicly stated. Russia's law may be egregious but they are a sovereign nation. Athletes at all Olympics have to follow the laws of the nation in which they are participating.
    Gay or straight, olympic games are actually massive freaking bonefests. Like, they had to start stockpiling condoms and handing them out. It's a bunch of people in the supreme heights of physical fitness in a giant exhilarating physical competition. Cheering crowds, endorphins, and everyone around you is hot.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    Yeah. That's not really necessary, is it? When in Rome, do as the Romans do. When in Russia, knock off the public displays of affection in respect for their culture and their laws. The athletes are only there for a few weeks. It's not too great a hardship to endure to eschew public displays of affection for a few weeks. If an athlete thinks it's too much for them to take, then they shouldn't go. Boycotting the Olympics over this is idiotic. It won't happen. Homosexual activists will be disappointed. They'll get over it.
    You might have a point if Russia was going to arrest heterosexuals for holding hands.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Maybe gay athletes shouldn't participate in the 2014 Olympics.

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    Re: Gay Athletes Could Be Prosecuted at 2014 Winter Olympics, Russian Lawmaker Sugges

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Maybe gay athletes shouldn't participate in the 2014 Olympics.
    Do you support Russia's law regarding gay people holding hands in public?
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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