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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    It tells me that they didn't want to push for the death penalty.
    Proof?


    He didn't have to.
    Yet you need proof to back up your claim.
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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    It was the actions of our state to invade a sovereign nation that did not attack that led to a surge of Al Qaeda in that country. Through lives and limbs, Iraqis continue to pay almost daily for our invasion.
    Yeah, that horse died a long time ago. It's absolutely ridiculous that you'd even bring that up.
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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by polisciguy View Post
    I heard this in a discussion with a colleague and I am unsure of the source, but apparently he told his direct superiors of his findings and they took no action, leaving him with the obligation to expose it.
    Oddly enough the only actual obligations laid upon Manning were the ones he so blatantly violated. Emotional and pseudo heroic pleas are quite literally the only leg Manning supporters have left to stand on.

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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by a351 View Post
    Oddly enough the only actual obligations laid upon Manning were the ones he so blatantly violated. Emotional and pseudo heroic pleas are quite literally the only leg Manning supporters have left to stand on.
    I'm rather apathetic about the whole thing. They're making a statement. It's not a matter of justice at this point. Especially considering the nature of intelligence work. Leaking information was a huge part of my work. Granted it was in a controlled manner, but all of which was a great deal more sensitive than anything Manning stumbled upon. If Manning is a traitor, color everyone that has ever worked in U.S. intelligence a traitor in the past 20 years or so, myself included.

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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
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    Good. The only thing acquitting him of aiding the enemy does is take the death penalty off the table, which I'm not against. Next up is the pursuit of Snowden. In the words of the very man they leaked their information to: "they've got it coming to them. They deserve it."
    I have mixed feelings about Manning however, Snowden is a patriot...

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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    Yeah, that horse died a long time ago. It's absolutely ridiculous that you'd even bring that up.
    Why is it ridiculous when Iraqis continue to pay for it and there are still neocons out there who thought it was a good idea?
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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoist View Post
    Why is it ridiculous when Iraqis continue to pay for it and there are still neocons out there who thought it was a good idea?
    In the context of this thread, you used it to shift blame from Manning for a resurgent Al Qaeda (resulting from our inability to gain immunity for our troops) to the government when we initially started the Iraq War.

    I'm saying its completely fallacious, and illogical to say because we're in Iraq, Manning's contributions to Al Qaeda's current resurgence is Bush/Congress's fault.
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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by repeter View Post
    In the context of this thread, you used it to shift blame from Manning for a resurgent Al Qaeda (resulting from our inability to gain immunity for our troops) to the government when we initially started the Iraq War.

    I'm saying its completely fallacious, and illogical to say because we're in Iraq, Manning's contributions to Al Qaeda's current resurgence is Bush/Congress's fault.
    And what I'm saying is that it is ridiculous to point to Manning for a 'resurgence' in Al-Qaeda when there was very little Al-Qaeda activity in Iraq before the US military invaded. If you are going to blame Manning for the resurgence then you better be ready to blame our govt//military for Al-Qaeda in Iraq's initial surge.

    On the immunity, if we had Chinese troops in the US would you want them to have it?
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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I have mixed feelings about Manning however, Snowden is a patriot...
    Snowden isn't what people think he is.
    I love the NSA. It's like having a secret fan-base you will never see, but they're there, watching everything you write and it makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside knowing that I may be some person's only form of unconstitutional entertainment one night.

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    Re: Bradley Manning found not guilty of aiding the enemy, convicted on other charges

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    Snowden isn't what people think he is.
    Only time will tell, literally.

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