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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    This is an insult to the intelligence to all Americans.
    Let me amend your statement by changing "all" to "half," because there are those who actually believe that black is white, and up is down, and bad is good, and they believe and applaud what they hear, especially if it means what they think it does.

    Greetings, apdst.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Standard, expected absolutist thinking from the libertarians. Again.
    There's this gap between "ideal business environment" and "nobody gets to have profit" that you seem to have missed.



    No, they aren't. Wealth is a result of work. Cashflow, including profit margins, is transfer of that wealth, not the source of it.
    So you think it's a good idea to tax business losses?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You got the president you deserve. Enjoy!
    your opinion noted but since I didn't vote for Obama that is nothing more than your typical rhetoric.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    your opinion noted but since I didn't vote for Obama that is nothing more than your typical rhetoric.
    LOL your comment is funny considering that's all you do is provide nothing more than opinions. I think my comment stands, enjoy the president you deserve.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    LOL your comment is funny considering that's all you do is provide nothing more than opinions. I think my comment stands, enjoy the president you deserve.
    Your statement is that Romney and Obama are the same and that couldn't be further from the truth as the records show. So keep blabbering.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Thats literally what he is doing here!!! Lowering taxes..
    No, hes literally proposing collecting MORE taxes, and then spending it rathe than reducing the deficit.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Your statement is that Romney and Obama are the same and that couldn't be further from the truth as the records show. So keep blabbering.
    No the records don't show that. Sorry, but enjoy the president you deserve. Romney was shown to be a big government guy just like Obama. Romneycare and him wanting to INCREASE the military budget MORE than what they asked for. Sorry you don't like the facts. You and the GOP got what you deserve.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Sisyphus View Post
    Seems so, albeit, I think his ideology is more populist. The real problem is he, in my opinion, is surrounded by Capitalists (Wall Street folks enriched by capitalizing ventures) and not nearly enough if any influencial (ear of the President) Political Economists (Robert Reiches of the world) with a broad understanding of macroeconomics within polities.

    So Obama is doing exactly what Clinton and Bush 43 did before him: focusing on income from Capital and assuming income from Labor will take care of itself, which it hasn't since the only winners are Capitalists, already enjoying record profits and wealth, while our middle class continues to shrink.
    Except the capitalists are paying more taxes than ever before, and a greater share of taxes. And we JUST raised the top rate rate while sparing Labor (plus special fees on high income earners from obama care). Clinton LOWERED cap gains. Bush LOWERED top tax rates. Obama has done and proposed the opposite.

    The evidence does not support your opinion.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Except the capitalists are paying more taxes than ever before, and a greater share of taxes. And we JUST raised the top rate rate while sparing Labor (plus special fees on high income earners from obama care). Clinton LOWERED cap gains. Bush LOWERED top tax rates. Obama has done and proposed the opposite.

    The evidence does not support your opinion.
    When our entire middle class falls below the taxable income threshold, the poor abused Wealthy will pay 100% of the taxes. OMG!!! How will they cope????

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Except the capitalists are paying more taxes than ever before, and a greater share of taxes. And we JUST raised the top rate rate while sparing Labor (plus special fees on high income earners from obama care). Clinton LOWERED cap gains. Bush LOWERED top tax rates. Obama has done and proposed the opposite.

    The evidence does not support your opinion.
    No true. Obama pushed for a 2 year extension on Bush 43's temporary (had a sunset clause) tax cuts, and it merely was allowed to time-out, finally, and years too late, returning to Clinton tax rates.

    Don't be ridiculous.

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