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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Romney was a much better qualified individual that Obama. The country is getting what it deserves for electing an incompetent for a second term. You see results don't matter to someone like you. I am for cleaning house completely starting with Obama.
    we just did a house cleaning and like most cons, you didn't do anything ... anyway, the house cleaning is called an election and Obama was re-elected ... Judging from your posts, and your side's attempts to prevent people from voting, you guys don't have any use for elections, but the rest of us still do ... so live with it, and next time don't be so dam lazy ... the rest of us are tired of picking up after you guys ... the mess you guys left in 2008 was one of your worst and it'll take a long time to clean up ...

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure | Reuters

    He can at least wait for the plan details before he bitches can't he?
    One could have thought it would be smart to wait, till he knew the details.

    But it turns out, that the plan ist somewhat odd.

    "ďHereís the bottom line: Iím willing to work with Republicans on reforming our corporate tax code, as long as we use the money from transitioning to a simpler tax system for a significant investment in creating middle-class jobs. Thatís the deal,Ē "

    If corporate taxes are siplified and reduced in the right way, it will be a job machine, no new spending will be required and existing programmes can be cut to reduce the budget.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Standard, expected absolutist thinking from the libertarians. Again.
    There's this gap between "ideal business environment" and "nobody gets to have profit" that you seem to have missed.



    No, they aren't. Wealth is a result of work. Cashflow, including profit margins, is transfer of that wealth, not the source of it.
    The dichotomy that you claim exists doesn't. Companies need to make profit to stay in business, period. I say this having been business for over three decades. Believing there is another central purpose for doing business such as social engineering is fantasy. Even non profits depend on profit to exist. You may think this is absolutist, and you may be right. You just can't name a business that exists without profit that lasts.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    *cough* *cough* what ever happened to claims of "class warfare"
    So much for the Libbos looking out for the little guy. Those small busines operators are middle class workes, too.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So at what point in this does Obama give anything up? He gets more tax revenue and he gets another job program all the while all the republicans get is their intelligence insulted.
    This is an insult to the intelligence to all Americans.
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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Obama wants to cut the corporate tax rate of 35 percent to 28 percent and give manufacturers a preferred rate of 25 percent. He also wants a minimum tax on foreign earnings as a tool against corporate tax evasion and the use of tax havens.
    In exchange for his support for a corporate tax reduction, Obama wants the money generated by a tax overhaul to be used to fund such projects as repairing roads and bridges, improving education at community colleges and promoting manufacturing, senior administration officials said.
    So first, it's not just a tax cut despite the liberal geniuses in this thread claiming that's all it is. It also includes according to that quote, tax on corporations with foreign operations who pay less than some minimum tax he has in mind. That's a tax increase for any and all such corporations. You may argue it's a justified one, just do not argue it's not a tax increase.
    Additionally, he's picking a winner in manufacturing, treating an entire industry different for what reason?

    And who can explain what precisely this "wants the money generated by a tax overhaul" refers to? Is this anticipated to come from the foreign min tax noted above? Basically a tax increase leads to extra revenue which he wants to spend? (I understand the "Obama wants the money" part, just not where it came from..

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So much for the Libbos looking out for the little guy. Those small busines operators are middle class workes, too.
    Wait so when Obama gives in to your demands of lowering taxes for the rich then its "oh this is a bad policy". Man you guys are too comical really showing your stripes, you guys really dont care about policy its all about "whatever OBama does is wrong"!


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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Thats literally what he is doing here!!! Lowering taxes..
    Lowering taxes, then using the revenue generated to fund a jobs program?

    We're still short on details about this grand plan, but it still looks like a tax increase to me.
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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wait so when Obama gives in to your demands of lowering taxes for the rich then its "oh this is a bad policy". Man you guys are too comical really showing your stripes, you guys really dont care about policy its all about "whatever OBama does is wrong"!
    When di I say that? I didn't. Did I? Do you know how stupid you sound?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    your political partisan hackery is boring. I didn't vote for Obama. And yes, you and the GOP ARE getting the president you deserve for putting up a lame ass like Romney. Tell your GOP to do better next time or keep dealing with Dem presidents.

    You follow and worship the Dem/Rep duopoly, you get what you deserve.
    We had two choices in November, Romney and Obama. I chose Romney and since you don't know what Romney would be doing now you are the partisan hack spouting rhetoric. I didn't get the choice I voted for therefore didn't get the President I deserved and the country is suffering with the President that liberals helped elect

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