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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    I believe that every nation needs a founding, Constitutional document, TNE. I don't believe I've ever said otherwise. What I disagree with is the seriously flawed nature of the US Constitution. One of it's major flaws is the lack of a means to ensure the document is being followed, and the ease in which it can be ignored or modified. Among it's other flaws are the lack of inclusion of the Duties and Responsibilities of a Citizen, a much clearer definition of who can be allowed to be a Citizen, and not tying those things to the ability to avail oneself of the "fights and privileges" of citizenship.
    In other words, not the Consitution we have now. So again, my point stands that it is amusing you seeming to care about the Consitution when you don't approve of it anyway.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Standard, expected absolutist thinking from the libertarians. Again.
    There's this gap between "ideal business environment" and "nobody gets to have profit" that you seem to have missed.



    No, they aren't. Wealth is a result of work. Cashflow, including profit margins, is transfer of that wealth, not the source of it.
    No they are the source of it. Work is an element in earning the gross profit.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    In other words, not the Consitution we have now. So again, my point stands that it is amusing you seeming to care about the Consitution when you don't approve of it anyway.
    I approve of the concept and I am of the opinion that those founding documents are the inviolatable law of the land. Therefore, whild I disagree with large parts of what's in the US Constitution, I do believe it should be followed to the letter until it is amended or replaced.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by azgreg View Post
    Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure | Reuters







    He can at least wait for the plan details before he bitches can't he?
    If Obama says it is going to be Grand, you can be assured it will be a horrible failure.
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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Therefore, whild I disagree with large parts of what's in the US Constitution, I do believe it should be followed to the letter until it is amended or replaced.
    Fair enough

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Maybe the GOP shouldn't have put up a lame ass like Romney. The GOP and YOU now get what you and the GOP deserve for that. Enjoy and live in the bed you and the GOP made.
    Romney was a much better qualified individual that Obama. The country is getting what it deserves for electing an incompetent for a second term. You see results don't matter to someone like you. I am for cleaning house completely starting with Obama.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    So at what point in this does Obama give anything up? He gets more tax revenue and he gets another job program all the while all the republicans get is their intelligence insulted.
    Playing devils advocate he thinks that lowering the high income corp tax rate alone is a big give away. Its just not equal to what he wants, less deductions and more spending. If he wants more spending, it has to be offset with cuts. If he wants less deductions it has to be revenue neutral.

    A true Grand Bargain would be something like Simpson Bowles, or passing a budget with moderate spending cuts and reprioritizing spending towards things he likes.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Romney was a much better qualified individual that Obama. The country is getting what it deserves for electing an incompetent for a second term. You see results don't matter to someone like you. I am for cleaning house completely starting with Obama.
    your political partisan hackery is boring. I didn't vote for Obama. And yes, you and the GOP ARE getting the president you deserve for putting up a lame ass like Romney. Tell your GOP to do better next time or keep dealing with Dem presidents.

    You follow and worship the Dem/Rep duopoly, you get what you deserve.

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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    That probably has to do with the fact that my education taught me the role of the Federal Govt. and then I had 35 years of actual real life business experience. Too bad you have been brainwashed by a failed ideology that doesn't understand the role of the govt. or how the private sector works.
    Ok whatever you say all wise one on the internet.


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    Re: Obama to propose 'grand bargain' on corporate tax rate, infrastructure

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why should we have to accept another job program when Obama can't even accept actually lowering taxes?
    Thats literally what he is doing here!!! Lowering taxes..


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