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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Huh? Those controls have nothing to do with him. He was never able to target anyone. He was a ****ing computer guy lol. All he knew was that the program existed. He wasn't an analyst- certainly not a collector- nor was he an administrator of either. He wasn't important. He might as well have been a cook.

    He has nothing to do with controls.
    hackers are able to do a lot of damage with a simple computer.

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free.
    LOL now that took some serious thought...

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Earlier I wrote, "If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free."

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    LOL now that took some serious thought...
    You speak the truth without recognizing it.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free.
    lol shhh
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    hackers are able to do a lot of damage with a simple computer.
    ???

    That has nothing to do with the subject.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    It's not really true. It's like saying anyone can steal something from a store. Sure, you can do it, but you're gonna get in trouble.
    This. Ability to abuse does not mean authorized to abuse.

    For example, as a Marine I've been taught to find and then kill people. I could abuse that by going and hunting people I happen to not like, or who I just think have it coming, or heck, who were wearing the wrong color shirt.

    And then I would go to prison if I didn't get executed.


    Given that - as an government employee - every friggin keystroke you make on a government computer is taggable, I'm betting just going in unauthorized and starting too look up the email traffic of the brother-in-law you don't particularly like is going to get you nabbed fairly quickly.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    If you believe it is ever okay for your government to spy on you then you are not fit to be free.
    What an interesting use of absolutes. So, for example, if I were engaged in smuggling children for sex-slave purposes, you would argue that the FBI should not be allowed to tap my phone or observe my movements in order to bring me down?

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    This. Ability to abuse does not mean authorized to abuse.

    Given that - as an government employee - every friggin keystroke you make on a government computer is taggable, I'm betting just going in unauthorized and starting too look up the email traffic of the brother-in-law you don't particularly like is going to get you nabbed fairly quickly.
    Unless, of course, the whole reason for having the ability is to use it.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    What an interesting use of absolutes. So, for example, if I were engaged in smuggling children for sex-slave purposes, you would argue that the FBI should not be allowed to tap my phone or observe my movements in order to bring me down?
    At that point where a warrant has been sought after and given by an impartial judge then it is no longer spying. It is police work.

    We are NOT subjects. Our government does NOT have the right to spy on us. This must stop. Or we will have a second declaration of independence. Armed insurrections have happened here. One can happen again.

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    At that point where a warrant has been sought after and given by an impartial judge then it is no longer spying. It is police work.

    We are NOT subjects. Our government does NOT have the right to spy on us. This must stop. Or we will have a second declaration of independence. Armed insurrections have happened here. One can happen again.
    Why does everyone keep assuming its about THEM? Do you understand that these programs were not designed for DOMESTIC purposes??

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