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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    I know I read it; big foot was in the news too..
    Yup...nothing to see here, move along.

    Thanks Barbrady.
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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    Yup...nothing to see here, move along.

    Thanks Barbrady.
    You got it - good job!

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    What are you taking about? You think that because you said "weed" someone is going to knock on your door? Be serious..
    The NSA has been providing information from their surveillance activities to the DEA. It is probably up to the DEA to decide who is worth prosecuting.

    Does that mean that they are going to bust everyone who mentions smoking a joint or taking a pill? Probably not, but they have the information and power to do so if they feel like it. We know that the DEA is willing to bust people involved with non-profit medical cannabis facilities in states where they are legal and regulated, so we can't count on them having reasonable priorities.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    The NSA has been providing information from their surveillance activities to the DEA. It is probably up to the DEA to decide who is worth prosecuting.

    Does that mean that they are going to bust everyone who mentions smoking a joint or taking a pill? Probably not, but they have the information and power to do so if they feel like it. We know that the DEA is willing to bust people involved with non-profit medical cannabis facilities in states where they are legal and regulated, so we can't count on them having reasonable priorities.
    That's because if they can charge people with drug crimes, they can steal their property.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The NSA has been providing information from their surveillance activities to the DEA. It is probably up to the DEA to decide who is worth prosecuting.

    Does that mean that they are going to bust everyone who mentions smoking a joint or taking a pill? Probably not, but they have the information and power to do so if they feel like it. We know that the DEA is willing to bust people involved with non-profit medical cannabis facilities in states where they are legal and regulated, so we can't count on them having reasonable priorities.
    Remind me again, but isn't marijuana illegal?? PS Federal Law trumps State Law

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    Remind me again, but isn't marijuana illegal?? PS Federal Law trumps State Law
    Not really. 9th and 10th amendments reserved anything not specifically granted to the federal government to the People and the States. In a Republic, federal law doesn't always trump state.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    Not really. 9th and 10th amendments reserved anything not specifically granted to the federal government to the People and the States. In a Republic, federal law doesn't always trump state.
    I understand that; my point was about federal drug laws.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    I understand that; my point was about federal drug laws.
    But only because the Federal government contrived some excuse about interstate commerce.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    But only because the Federal government contrived some excuse about interstate commerce.
    That's a debate for a different threat btw.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    That's a debate for a different threat btw.
    Perchance. However, the general point is that just because the federal government claims ownership doesn't necessarily mean that ownership is just or right.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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