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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    It's not that simple you know..intel collection is fairly grey; you have to look at context and not just jump to conclusion that you're being targeted.

    We're fighting an asymmetrical war with an enemy that could give a shyt about your privacy all while trying to put together a digital puzzle to keep you safe.

    Like I said- Facebook and Google know a hell of a lot more about you than the NSA. These are highly technical programs designed to keep people safe- no one gives a shyt about your private lives, sorry you're just not that important...
    Facebook and Google are datamined by the NSA, so the NSA is up to date. It indeed isn't that simple, but you offered up only simple argument. What enemy are we fighting that I have to be so worried about as to abdicate any amount of privacy to the government? I do think the whole "they're coming after your rights, so give them up to the government" argument is not so convincing.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    unless you or someone you know talks about illegal drugs, including medical cannabis.
    What are you taking about? You think that because you said "weed" someone is going to knock on your door? Be serious..

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    What are you taking about? You think that because you said "weed" someone is going to knock on your door? Be serious..
    You have to search pressure cooker and backpack for that to happen.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Facebook and Google are datamined by the NSA, so the NSA is up to date. It indeed isn't that simple, but you offered up only simple argument. What enemy are we fighting that I have to be so worried about as to abdicate any amount of privacy to the government? I do think the whole "they're coming after your rights, so give them up to the government" argument is not so convincing.
    Go back and read all 40+ pages of posts before you assume you know what I've said...

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    You have to search pressure cooker and backpack for that to happen.
    LMFAOL really? That's all?

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    Go back and read all 40+ pages of posts before you assume you know what I've said...
    I know what you said to me, and that is what I'm responding to. If you want me to accept gross expansion of government power and Big Brother tactics, I need more than fear mongering.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    LMFAOL really? That's all?
    Yeah, it was in the news just the other week.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    If you want me to accept gross expansion of government power and Big Brother tactics, I need more than fear mongering.
    Now I know you haven't read he entire thread: there is no "expansion"

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Yeah, it was in the news just the other week.
    I know I read it; big foot was in the news too..

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    Now I know you haven't read he entire thread: there is no "expansion"
    Yet they're doing things now they didn't in the past. But this aggressive force against our privacy and obvious Big Brother tactics to watch and monitor us all, again if you want me to accept it I need more than fear mongering.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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