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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    Call your congressman and see if he can request POTUS' Daily Briefing- see what answer he gets...

    The intel committees are tasked with a certain amount of oversight, not micromanaging.
    And what "certain amount" is that?

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    You must have me confused with someone else; I've advocated no such thing. Check with the voices inside of you- they may have a clue.
    Check out your post #245.

    Is your memory as deficient as your grammar?

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Check out your post #245.

    Is your memory as deficient as your grammar?
    I take it you're unable to pick up on sarcasm; it doesn't surprise me.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    I take it you're unable to pick up on sarcasm; it doesn't surprise me.

    Aahh, sarcasm it was.

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Aahh, sarcasm it was.
    Bingo!

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    So a law passed overwhelmingly by both chambers of Congress is illegal bc YOU say so? LOL

    Oh brother, your way out there now. May I suggest some top picks on bunkers and ammo for your impending revolt?

    I hear The Bikini Atoll makes a great place this time of year.
    The Supreme Court routinely rules that laws passed by congress are unconstitutional. The fourth amendment is not ambiguous, anyone comparing current surveillance practices with the language of the fourth amendment can see the violation. (if they are willing to be honest)

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    Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    The Supreme Court routinely rules that laws passed by congress are unconstitutional. The fourth amendment is not ambiguous, anyone comparing current surveillance practices with the language of the fourth amendment can see the violation. (if they are willing to be honest)
    The Fourth Amendment not ambiguous? Really..? This is probably one of the most ambiguous parts of The Constitution. Take a look at it.

    You may also want to revisit your history; the US has a long standing tradition of wartime surveillance of the enemy, both foreign and domestic, and while we’re not at war with a State per se, we’re at war nonetheless (whether we should or not is besides the point).

    This tradition of intel collection goes back to our colonial times and is a practice as old as communications itself; during the Revolutionary War George Washington made frequent use of his Army's collection capabilities; he directed the interception of British mail, the opening of such documents and the exploitation of their data. You may argue that this was directed at a foreign power and that’s true, but such logic has extended to other cases; during the Civil War the Union wiretapped the Confederate’s telegraphs and I remind you, without a warrant and while targeting US persons.

    Even in more recent times such as WWI, Wilson authorized the US military to intercept telegraph, telephone and cable communications headed in and out of the US (sound familiar?); he derived this authority from The Constitution and from Congress’ declaration of war, an authorization to use military force that did not explicitly include language related to SIGINT collection methods.

    This was once again done in WWII after Pearl Harbor and one can see how such protocols exist today, in a more technologically advanced manner through the NSA’s (and other's) various programs.

    You may not like the truth for it is counterintuitive to what you believe, but the truth it is nonetheless…
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    You have a history of aggressive, overbearing posts. I responded to one of them.
    lol can you imagine a world in which I treated all opinions equally, as if they were equally valid and some not worthy of derision? I can't. I'm glad you admitted that you weren't responding to random rudeness, though. I phrased my response to him in almost the exact way he responded to me. You didn't mind his. No biggie, but don't try to scramble for some moral high ground.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I understand different points of view. I do not understand the evil that men do in the name of security.
    Apparently you don't understand different points of view, because you automatically think that what you don't agree with is evil. Grow up. That's such an immature and childish way to look at things.

    The system is broken if a vote means nothing. If our choices are Tweedledee or Tweedledum then it is time to go back to basics and actually follow the Constitution. If we fail how is it possible to not have a revolution? History shows that people will suffer for a long time but not forever.

    So we fix it or we end it. Revolutions are horrible, destructive, rending things. So we have to pull on our big boy pants and fix it.
    Horribly immature. You don't like a government policy and are now saying that if they're aren't enough people that agree with you, you want to resort to violence. Pathetic. Just move.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    What part of "no Warrants shall issue but upon probable cause" do you not understand?
    BAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAH

    looooooooooooooooool

    Is this where you pretend that 'probable' isn't subjective, Henry? I see there's a couple more pages after you posted this. Let's see you argue that it's objective for a few pages (fingers crossed, please please please do this). No wonder you're a conspiracy theorist.
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