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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    Commissioned Officer actually.

    Ask a straight forward question.
    What did you tell your Congressman when you voted for him?
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Then you'd know SIGINT doesn't even have 'tradecraft'. Jesus ****, man, if there's one person you can't bull****, it's me.
    I never assume that someone spouting off is competent. Words and phrases get used slightly out of place. I try to answer the question I think is being asked.

    Now that I know you are a "sharpshooter" I will avoid you.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

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    35G is not an officer MOS? If you must know I was also a 35D (so 35DG) and carried a 7Y designator. I was also a defense intelligence agency school trained intelligence collection manager. I served as a corps level collection manager. You are blowing it...
    And yet you still think IT and SIGINT are the same? How odd.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I never assume that someone spouting off is competent. Words and phrases get used slightly out of place. I try to answer the question I think is being asked.

    Now that I know you are a "sharpshooter" I will avoid you.
    Yeah, avoid the **** out of me, I'm not the one you want. You'll actually have to back up your bull****.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    What did you tell your Congressman when you voted for him?
    It was actually before I voted for him. And I repeat it often. Bring this country back to a constitutional form of government.

    I will remind him again in the Town Hall meeting he will no doubt have. I will also ask him to explain why he did not vote to cut off funding for this NSA program.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Yeah, avoid the **** out of me, I'm not the one you want. You'll actually have to back up your bull****.
    In addition to everything else you are just one unhappy person. I will avoid you because you are unpleasant in addition to being a sharpshooter. From my perspective you are a waste of time. You already know everything, are unteachable and you think you are cute. Others see you differently.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    It was actually before I voted for him. And I repeat it often. Bring this country back to a constitutional form of government.
    So you didn't talk to him about everything he votes upon?

    I will remind him again in the Town Hall meeting he will no doubt have. I will also ask him to explain why he did not vote to cut off funding for this NSA program.
    And he'll tell you something very diplomatic that will boil down to: "you don't understand this program, you don't understand national security, and you don't understand that just because you think something is unconstitutional doesn't make it unconstitutional."

    And you're going to have deal with it. Drink water, drive on.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    In addition to everything else you are just one unhappy person. I will avoid you because you are unpleasant in addition to being a sharpshooter. From my perspective you are a waste of time. You already know everything, are unteachable and you think you are cute. Others see you differently.
    Nah, I'm happy. Keep avoiding.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    And yet you still think IT and SIGINT are the same? How odd.
    I do not recall ever making that claim. I dealt mostly with signals, imagery and humint. We were just beginning measurements and signatures when I left the collection management job to become an intelligence officer on an airborne command post.
    Pulling data off a network is not much different than pulling it off an underwater cable. It really wasn't sigint either, was it?

    What is a signal anyway? Does it really matter what medium the information flows in? If I take a signal off a wire is that any different than if I take out of the air?

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    So you didn't talk to him about everything he votes upon?

    And he'll tell you something very diplomatic that will boil down to: "you don't understand this program, you don't understand national security, and you don't understand that just because you think something is unconstitutional doesn't make it unconstitutional."

    And you're going to have deal with it. Drink water, drive on.
    If I don't think he is paying attention I will support his opponent. One very important reason why democracies fail is that we stop sending men and women with integrity to occupy those temporary offices.

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