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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Are the many federal judges that agreed and agree with this likewise unfamiliar with the US Constitution?

    Or is it that your interpretation is not the only rational one out there?
    I return to my statement about the tyranny of collusion. Do you believe it is acceptable as long as there are enough tyrants who agree that we should be tyrannized? The words are very plain. Anyone can read them and know what they mean. Tyrants can read them and twist them, as tyrants always do.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    But I do. One does not to spy on American citizens just because we can.
    That has nothing to do with SIGINT. SIGINT is signals intelligence gathering. We were discussing how it's different from information technology, that multitudes of companies have sections dedicated to. They're two very different things. Now you're talking about legality or something like SIGINT is particular to the US or something like that. We're not. You're discussing something else.

    What the US is doing is wrong. The government has never been our friend but now isn't it becoming clear that the government is separate from the people and that we are its' enemy? And it has become ours.
    lol, thank you for that very black and white interpretation. I appreciate that.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by greyhat View Post
    Do please enlighten us on the trade-craft of SIGINT..
    No. I am still under my NDA. I rarely even mention my 20 years deep in it.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I return to my statement about the tyranny of collusion. Do you believe it is acceptable as long as there are enough tyrants who agree that we should be tyrannized? The words are very plain. Anyone can read them and know what they mean. Tyrants can read them and twist them, as tyrants always do.
    Why didn't you answer my questions before firing back with your own? Very odd. Are you capable of just answering a plain question? What did you tell your Congressman?
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    No. I am still under my NDA. I rarely even mention my 20 years deep in it.
    Then you'd know SIGINT doesn't even have 'tradecraft'. Jesus ****, man, if there's one person you can't bull****, it's me.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That has nothing to do with SIGINT. SIGINT is signals intelligence gathering. We were discussing how it's different from information technology, that multitudes of companies have sections dedicated to. They're two very different things. Now you're talking about legality or something like SIGINT is particular to the US or something like that. We're not. You're discussing something else.

    lol, thank you for that very black and white interpretation. I appreciate that.
    I am very familiar with signals intelligence.
    Using networks is just one more means for gathering raw data.

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I am very familiar with signals intelligence.
    Using networks is just one more means for gathering raw data.
    That's great, and still has nothing to do with what you initially quoted.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Then you'd know SIGINT doesn't even have 'tradecraft'. Jesus ****, man, if there's one person you can't bull****, it's me.
    Do you prefer tactics, techniques and procedures?

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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    That's great, and still has nothing to do with what you initially quoted.
    You mean you and Verax having your little fit over the differences between information technology and signals intelligence?

    You told him that he doesn't understand sigint. I said I do. The context of this discussion remains the allegations that the US is spying on all Americans.
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    Re: Greenwald says 'low-level' NSA workers can tap into phone, Internet records

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    What did you tell him?
    Bring the country back under the Constitution.

    No, I'm not.
    But you are making the case that tyranny is fine with you as long as enough people agree.

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