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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post

    What is The Bible's definition of a sodomite?
    If you've ever given or received oral sex - YOU are guilty of sodomy, which based on your chosen definition make YOU a sodomite.
    Based on biblical definitions.

    Or are you seriously going to sit there and state that you've never given or received oral sex?
    And that you were a virgin until you got married?

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    If you've ever given or received oral sex - YOU are guilty of sodomy, which based on your chosen definition make YOU a sodomite.
    Based on biblical definitions.

    Or are you seriously going to sit there and state that you've never given or received oral sex?
    And that you were a virgin until you got married?
    May not be his choice. Just saying. Be kind.

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    Why live?
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    May not be his choice. Just saying. Be kind.
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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Why live?
    Beats the alternative, often.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    No where in the bible is the term "sodomite" ever used as a synonym for homosexual.

    The definition of sodomy is simply an anal or oral sex act.
    Something the VAST majority of all humans have done, thought about doing, and/or will do.

    Even heterosexual married couples are guilty of the biblical definition of sodomy.


    Truth in fact that a "Sodomite" is only used to define a person who lived and died in the city of Sodom.

    Now surely there was a gay person or three who was a resident of Sodom.

    Gigantic hypocritical and ignorant leap to suggest that straight people were not also Sodomites.

    That of course is all based on the concept that the biblical city of Sodom ever really existed.

    However, to connect the dots, if gay people are "sodomites" because they engage in anal and/or oral sex, then the majority of all humans are "sodomites" for the very same reasons.
    Sodomites was a term used to collectively describe the "detestable acts", debauchery and sin going on at Sodom and Gomorrah. Engaging in homosexual sex is specifically referred to as a "detestable act" in the bible. A mortal sin. You know what God did to that city right? If you have a problem with Christians describing sodomites as sinners than take it up with God. It's his law.

    Leviticus 20:13

    If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.
    Meaning if they don't repent and stop the behavior they will be denied entry into God's Kingdom. God destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah because the city had become San Francisco on steroids. "Do what thou wilt" was the culture. There was nobody left in the city (after Lot and his family fled) who wasn't engaging in homosexual sex, gambling, incest and all kinds of other "detestable acts". It was a Godless city.

    Whether YOU believe that or not is your business. I'm just telling you what The Bible and The Catholic Church teach about it because obviously you and a handful of other posters are ignorant on the subject. This thread is about The Pope's views on homosexual sex. The Pope's views are The Church's views. Stop trying to tell Christians what their churches teach. You are not a Christian. None of you bashing the religion know anything about it.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    Most manage that as well don't you know.
    After all, they will live forever, so they think.



    A number of years ago I read that we send young men to war because they think that they will live forever.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Bottom line here is that the bible never used the word sodomite to define a homosexual or a homosexual act.

    It described sex acts between any and all sexes as well as a whole lot more.

    So that means "sodomite" can be used to describe billions upon billions of adults all across the globe regardless of who they have sex with.

    To limit using the term to define gay people, or gay acts is ignorant and silly.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    None of you bashing the religion know anything about it.
    That's a gigantic and HUGE lie.

    How do you know what any of us know?

    It appears many of us know a lot more than you do.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    If you have a problem with Christians describing sodomites as sinners than take it up with God. It's his law.
    I have a problem with you limiting the term "sodomite" to just the one select group of people you detest.

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