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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It's not debatable. The Bible is QUITE clear. No wiggle room.

    Engaging in homosexual sex IS a sin and an abomination.



    You keep acting like this is about me. Try that tactic with someone else who will take the bait. Judgement is between the sodomite and God. I also find it amusing that the people whining about "judging others" have done nothing in this thread except engage in emotional reasoning to judge me.

    There is no such thing as a "homosexual instinct" in animals. Animals engage in that type of behavior for a variety of different reasons, primarily for dominance. Not because of emotions or the will to procreate. A child cannot be conceived from gay sex. That's just science and nature pal. You DO believe in science don't you?

    The Bible is quite clear. Engaging in homosexual sex is a sin and an abomination.

    This thread is about The Pope and specifically the church's view on homosexuality. If you want to attack people for following God's Laws then go create that thread and have at it.
    Such clarity is seldom accurate. I can and have listed difference of opinion from bible scholars. Surely they have a reason as to why they're not as certain as you. Remember, the beginning of wisdom is I don't know and not I'm certain.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Such clarity is seldom accurate. I can and have listed difference of opinion from bible scholars. Surely they have a reason as to why they're not as certain as you. Remember, the beginning of wisdom is I don't know and not I'm certain.
    The opposite of faith is not doubt but certainty. In other words, it takes faith not to know, as in, I don't know the Mind of God. When the Christians figure that out the world will be a much better place to live in. I think the new Pope has leanings that way.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by TiredOfLife View Post
    The opposite of faith is not doubt but certainty. In other words, it takes faith not to know, as in, I don't know the Mind of God. When the Christians figure that out the world will be a much better place to live in. I think the new Pope has leanings that way.
    Nicely stated.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Such clarity is seldom accurate. I can and have listed difference of opinion from bible scholars. Surely they have a reason as to why they're not as certain as you. Remember, the beginning of wisdom is I don't know and not I'm certain.
    What bible scholars refute Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:910 and Romans 1:2628? Name them. I certainly have never heard of any of these people. It's certainly isn't The Catholic Church refuting any of these passages. "Bible Scholars" are not the definitive source in regards to Word of God anyways. They aren't lawyers who get to interpret his laws the way they see fit.

    Jesus also spoke of the sanctity of marriage being between a man and a woman. He spoke multiple times about Sodom and Gamorrah, where homosexual behavior was running rampant and one of the primary reasons why that city was destroyed. If you don't want to believe in God and you hate The Bible, like I keep saying, that's your business, but The Bible is very clear when it comes to homosexuality. It's a sin and an abomination. Whether it hurts your feelings or not is irrelevant. That's God's Law.

    This thread is about The Pope's views on homosexuality. The Pope's views = The Catholic Church's views. The Catholic Church's views on homosexuality have not changed and will not ever change. Got it now? Great. Take care.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What bible scholars refute Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:9–10 and Romans 1:26–28? Name them. I certainly have never heard of any of these people. It's certainly isn't The Catholic Church refuting any of these passages. "Bible Scholars" are not the definitive source in regards to Word of God anyways. They aren't lawyers who get to interpret his laws the way they see fit.

    Jesus also spoke of the sanctity of marriage being between a man and a woman. He spoke multiple times about Sodom and Gamorrah, where homosexual behavior was running rampant and one of the primary reasons why that city was destroyed. If you don't want to believe in God and you hate The Bible, like I keep saying, that's your business, but The Bible is very clear when it comes to homosexuality. It's a sin and an abomination. Whether it hurts your feelings or not is irrelevant. That's God's Law.

    This thread is about The Pope's views on homosexuality. The Pope's views = The Catholic Church's views. The Catholic Church's views on homosexuality have not changed and will not ever change. Got it now? Great. Take care.
    I have linked them and pointed you to them.

    Do remember, hubris leads to the fall.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    It's not debatable. The Bible is QUITE clear. No wiggle room.

    Engaging in homosexual sex IS a sin and an abomination.
    I bet the clothing that you are wearing right now is also considered an abomination by the same bible. No wiggle room right?

    I suppose you also don't eat shellfish?
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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    There is a difference between the Old and New Testaments.

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    What the scholars know that the believers don't - the Bible is a book of men seeking God not the other way around. If you get it wrong you believe in all sorts of nonsense, and then try to make Public Policy by it.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    There is a difference between the Old and New Testaments.
    One can be read in a day without putting you to sleep.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    What bible scholars refute Leviticus 18:22, Leviticus 20:13, 1 Corinthians 6:910 and Romans 1:2628? Name them. I certainly have never heard of any of these people. It's certainly isn't The Catholic Church refuting any of these passages. "Bible Scholars" are not the definitive source in regards to Word of God anyways. They aren't lawyers who get to interpret his laws the way they see fit.

    Jesus also spoke of the sanctity of marriage being between a man and a woman. He spoke multiple times about Sodom and Gamorrah, where homosexual behavior was running rampant and one of the primary reasons why that city was destroyed. If you don't want to believe in God and you hate The Bible, like I keep saying, that's your business, but The Bible is very clear when it comes to homosexuality. It's a sin and an abomination. Whether it hurts your feelings or not is irrelevant. That's God's Law.

    This thread is about The Pope's views on homosexuality. The Pope's views = The Catholic Church's views. The Catholic Church's views on homosexuality have not changed and will not ever change. Got it now? Great. Take care.
    Thought I'd give you a link while I had time:

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/polls/...743-a-130.html

    work backwards from here. This is just the last link I presented.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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