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    Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not sure why this is making headlines as this doesn't go against the church doctrine of "Hate the Sin, not the sinner".
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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Agreed. Somehow, I'm not sure why any hate would be acceptable.
    Well I see your point and I'm not sure the bible actually has it quoted that way. The concept though is what is important. The person is always to be loved and God (according to the bible) will judge.

    I don't follow the bible though as it isn't my religion.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    That is your opinion

    Nothing more



    That is your opinion, nothing more.

    See how that works?




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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not sure why this is making headlines as this doesn't go against the church doctrine of "Hate the Sin, not the sinner".
    Many mistake the change in tone as a move toward acceptance. I don't make that mistake myself, but welcome little changes, even if it is just in tone.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Christians hate the sin. Love the sinner.
    And damn it, but don't some of the loudest Christians show that love by making the persecution of gay people the very centerpiece of their faith?
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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The Bible is quite clear. Homosexual sex is a sin and an abomination. It's not my opinion. It's God's Law.

    As a believer, I follow God's laws. There are rules. The other guy (Satan) only has one rule.
    Do whatever you want.



    As long as what other people do is between consenting adults in privacy and you are not forced to be involved, why do you care what they do, or even think about it?

    It appears to me that you may have a problem.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Many mistake the change in tone as a move toward acceptance. I don't make that mistake myself, but welcome little changes, even if it is just in tone.
    I agree there with you. I just don't see how someone can make the mistake of hearing "acceptance" of the act of homosexuality within the Catholic Church from what is actually being said.

    It's not like they are going to start having gay weddings, so the message is still clear that the act is unacceptable to the Catholic Church. I don't agree with that stance, but it's not my religion to change.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I agree there with you. I just don't see how someone can make the mistake of hearing "acceptance" of the act of homosexuality within the Catholic Church from what is actually being said.

    It's not like they are going to start having gay weddings, so the message is still clear that the act is unacceptable to the Catholic Church. I don't agree with that stance, but it's not my religion to change.
    Agreed.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?' CNN Belief Blog - CNN.com Blogs
    Francis continues to distance himself from Benedict. Thoughts?
    I do not have any skin in that issue and am not a canonical lawyer. As I understand it, though, there is not very much leeway here. Homosexuality itself is no real problem for the RC. Practicing it is sin. Not really horrid sin. But recurring sin is not good in church view.
    It is not as bad as abortion.

    My view? If you believe in Hell it is a bad idea.

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Not sure why this is making headlines as this doesn't go against the church doctrine of "Hate the Sin, not the sinner".
    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Agreed. Somehow, I'm not sure why any hate would be acceptable.

    I brought up the whole hate thing and it's being unchristian-like much earlier in this thread. Not surprised it was glossed over.


    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Isn't "hating" pretty much un-christian?

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