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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Yea, please enlighten me. Homosexuality is a sin. Now you go.
    And what is the Church's position?
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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Homosexuality is not a sin. Any sex outside of marriage is. Now you go.
    Yes, you are correct!!
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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The Bible is a work of fiction written by very fallible men.




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    That is your opinion

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Doesn't change the fact that homosexual sex is a sin and an abomination

    Hate the sin. Not the sinner.
    That is your opinion

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    That is your opinion

    Nothing more
    The Bible is quite clear. Homosexual sex is a sin and an abomination. It's not my opinion. It's God's Law.

    As a believer, I follow God's laws. There are rules. The other guy (Satan) only has one rule. Do whatever you want.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    How is that Arrogant? Because I told you I talk to God?
    You're claiming you have two-way conversations with God?

    Have you told anyone about this? Like, a medical professional?

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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The Bible is quite clear. Homosexual sex is a sin and an abomination. It's not my opinion. It's God's Law.

    As a believer, I follow God's laws. There are rules. The other guy (Satan) only has one rule. Do whatever you want.
    New Testament is also quite clear about it's support for slavery, blaming all Jews for Jesus' death, genocidal acts and the idea that God views females as intrinsically less worthy than males.

    Doesn't mean that anyone in his/her right mind actually believes that Biblical crap.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Did I say I don't care about what Jesus said? No, that is your spin of what I said, not reality. What I said was, His words are not the only words in the Bible. His job was not to list each specific sin, He didn't mention rape afterall, did He mention incest? No, but I think you would agree those are wrong too....
    Rape and incest were pretty acceptable in Jesus' day. I don't mean acceptable in the sense that people just went "We're alright with it" but more like "Yeah, it happens. We get over it though." Surely, Jesus wasn't in favor of any of it, but the chances are he wouldn't have been all that angry about it either.

    It was pretty much standard for old testament guys to marry a cousin or somebody of relation. It's a standard part of some Middle Eastern cultures to preserve kinship ties through marriage. So we find that Middle East Jews have pretty high incidence of first cousin marriages.

    Now, as far as rape goes, there are more than once instance in which we see that the punishment for rape is just a little bit more serious than the punishment for stealing a goat. You pay a fine, you keep the woman. Women aren't exactly seen as anything but diplomatic property by social standards at that time.

    So in a way, you're right - Jesus doesn't condone it. However, the evidence would suggests he didn't really give a **** about it either.
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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    The Bible is quite clear. Homosexual sex is a sin and an abomination. It's not my opinion. It's God's Law.

    As a believer, I follow God's laws. There are rules. The other guy (Satan) only has one rule. Do whatever you want.
    This is, once again, your opinion



    nothing more
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    re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'[W:65,239]

    Quote Originally Posted by Redress View Post
    This is, once again, your opinion



    nothing more
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