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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Relevant? Really?

    Here's what's relevant:

    Not one single person anywhere on earth knows what "god" may or may not like/love/dislike/approve of, or dis-approve of.

    Nobody knows anything about any of that.

    In fact, not one single person here on earth knows if a "god" even exists.

    So judging anyone other than yourself based on what YOU believe is idiotic and childish.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Papa bull View Post
    If your boy gets all A's on his report card and is suspended from school for fighting, are you displeased with him?
    Perhaps disappointed, but not enough to consider the child an abomination.
    Usually a parent's love never dissipates regardless of how egregious a child's violations may be. Therefore, does God turn His love on and off so easily?

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Perhaps disappointed, but not enough to consider the child an abomination.
    Usually a parent's love never dissipates regardless of how egregious a child's violations may be. Therefore, does God turn His love on and off so easily?
    It's not that simple. It's not a turning on or off of love. It's about punishing sin. God is Holy and cannot tolerate sin wihtout repentance.
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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Relevant? Really?

    Here's what's relevant:

    Not one single person anywhere on earth knows what "god" may or may not like/love/dislike/approve of, or dis-approve of.

    Nobody knows anything about any of that.

    In fact, not one single person here on earth knows if a "god" even exists.

    So judging anyone other than yourself based on what YOU believe is idiotic and childish.
    Actually everything you just said is completely and utterly false. I know God exists, I know what he approves or disapproves of.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Perhaps disappointed, but not enough to consider the child an abomination.
    Usually a parent's love never dissipates regardless of how egregious a child's violations may be. Therefore, does God turn His love on and off so easily?
    Just pointing out that you can be pleased with some behaviors and displeased with others at the same time and with the same person.
    You can't reason anyone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into in the first place.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Actually everything you just said is completely and utterly false. I know God exists, I know what he approves or disapproves of.
    Does he approve of murder? King David, a man after God's own heart, had Bathsheba's husband murdered.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    Actually everything you just said is completely and utterly false. I know God exists, I know what he approves or disapproves of.
    Wrong.

    You have faith that he/she/it exists.
    You think you know what he/she/it approves and disapproves of.

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by lolabird View Post
    Does he approve of murder? King David, a man after God's own heart, had Bathsheba's husband murdered.
    No, if you recall David and Bathsheba were both punished for that.
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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by Dragonfly View Post
    Wrong.

    You have faith that he/she/it exists.
    You think you know what he/she/it approves and disapproves of.
    I talk with Him every day actually. And He wrote us a letter, it's called the Bible, and it tells us what is right and what is wrong. You will not understand that because you refuse to believe.
    Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same.

    Ronald Reagan

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    Re: Pope Francis on gays: `Who am I to judge?'

    Quote Originally Posted by davidtaylorjr View Post
    I talk with Him every day actually. And He wrote us a letter, it's called the Bible, and it tells us what is right and what is wrong. You will not understand that because you refuse to believe.
    But he spoke to us in parables. Nothing should be seen as literal, nor unchanging.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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