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Signs of declining economic security

j-mac said:
And you always stray off topic to avoid getting your arse handed to on topic..
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Again, I didn't stray here. As I was answering someone, you should know this. And no, you just say that when you don't like where the discussion is going. You fixate on either tell me I'm right or you accuse the person of straying or being dishonest. It's a weak tactic, but it is what you do.
 
Boo Radley said:
Bush sent people to war needlessly.
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You seem 100% sure of that. Yet the facts don't back that statement up. Perhaps you could enlighten us on when a President should send "people" to war?
 
Boo Radley said:
You need to read my argument better, but since you brought up Kerry, I'd ask that read his comments concerning his vote then. He stated clearly that he would oppose Bush if he went in outside the UN, and stated clearly that Saddam was not the kind of threat that would warrant invasion outside the UN context.
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I used "they". Not that particular liar. But he'll do.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
You seem 100% sure of that. Yet the facts don't back that statement up. Perhaps you could enlighten us on when a President should send "people" to war?
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Yes I am. No wmds. A degraded country barely holding on. No real threat outside of Iraq. Quite needless.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
I used "they". Not that particular liar. But he'll do.
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Again, read his statements. Ad read how you're using quotes out of context. Be honest and actually examine the nonsense you post.
 
Boo Radley said:
Again, I didn't stray here. As I was answering someone, you should know this. And no, you just say that when you don't like where the discussion is going. You fixate on either tell me I'm right or you accuse the person of straying or being dishonest. It's a weak tactic, but it is what you do.
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Your opinion on that is irrelevant.
 
Boo Radley said:
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You guys hold on to something no matter often your error is pointed out to you . One more time, this comments are misleading. Some were made before Clinton's people declared the thread over, and other while arguing not to invade. Snopes handles this if you need to see it written again. The words are right, but the context is missing. That makes it misleading at best, and a lie at worse. As you use it here, it's a lie.

No one voted to invade. They only allowed Bush to make the decision, cowardly as that was. The decision was Bush's and Bush's alone.
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No, cowardly is not being able to own up to having your talking points thrown back in your face with data that contradicts your manufactured meme.

THOSE quotes are a direct counter to your BS and the Democrats false narratives about Bush's supposed lies.

NOW your'e telling me that the Democrats who voted YES to the Iraq Resolution had no idea he was going to attack Iraq ?

How corrupt are you ? How twisted is your reality that you would actually try to float that BS excuse ?

And Snopes doesn't get it either.

Thosr are actual words spoken by actual Democrats that contradict the make believe premise that Bush lied about WMDs.

You guys bought into the war, voted for it and then attacked the troops and the President when you needed way to demonize a honest man for political purposes.

You bitched about a liar for 8 years and then elected a liar. You bitched about a ''incompetent" for 8 years and then actually elected a incompetent.

Typical Democrat failures and hypocrisy. Its the cancer of our civilization.
 
Fenton said:
No, cowardly is not being able to own up to having your talking points thrown back in your face with data that contradicts your manufactured meme.

THOSE quotes are a direct counter to your BS and the Democrats false narratives about Bush's supposed lies.

NOW your'e telling me that the Democrats who voted YES to the Iraq Resolution had no idea he was going to attack Iraq ?

How corrupt are you ? How twisted is yoir reality that you would actually try and float that BS ?

And Snopes doesn't get it either.

Thosr are actual words spoken by actual Democrats that contradict the make believe premise that Bush lied about WMDs.

You guys bought into the war, voted for it and then attacked the troops and the President when you needed way to demonize a honest man for political purposes.

You bitched about a liar for 8 years and then elected a liar. You bitched about a ''incompetent" for 8 years and then actually elected a incompetent.
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No, they're a dishonest representation. Nothing more.
 
Meanwhile, back to our regularly scheduled program: signs of economic decline, aka, Rightie wishful-thinking. And a couple thought on that come to mind:

1. Every nation has some signs of economic decline;

2. The USA has one unique feature, which is, we're the most economically powerful and secure nation on the planet.

Sorry to disappoint, my Rightie friends.
 
Boo Radley said:
No, they're a dishonest representation.
Nothing more.
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Your'e a dishonest representation who doesn't possess the humility or courage to admit youv'e had your ass handed to you.

That your one primary talking point, the sacred " Bush lied People Died " Liberal chant has been exposed as a empty construct. A lie.

Democrats lie continuously. Its got to be genetic.

Not too mention I JUST posted a video that shows the death and misery from Saddams Gas attacks on the Kurds.

But I guess that was BS too huh ?

No not even the truth can get in the way of your false narratives.

The truth is more and more Americans are realizing what a huge steaming heap the Democrat party actually is as almost everyone of your memes is shot down, disassembled and exposed as Bull Sh**.

I Post actual quotes of Democrats admitting Saddam had WMDs in the late 90s and you say they're out of context.

You guys hold onto something no matter how often your error is pointed out to you.
 
Fenton said:
Your'e a dishonest representation who doesn't possess the humility or courage to admit youv'e had your ass handed to you.

That your one primary talking point, the sacred " Bush lied People Died " Liberal chant has been exposed as a empty construct. A lie.

Democrats lie continuously. Its got to be genetic.

Not too mention I JUST posted a video that shows the death and misery from Saddams Gas attacks on the Kurds.

But I guess that was BS too huh ?

No not even the truth can get in the way of your false narratives.

The truth is more and more Americans are realizing what a huge steaming heap the Democrat party actually is are almost everyone of your memes is shot down, disassembled and exposed as Bull Sh**.

I Post actual quotes of Democrats admitting Saddam had WMDs in the late 90s and you say they're out of context.

You guys hold onto something no matter how often your error is pointed out to you.
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Again, the words are out of context. Either address that or admit your just spouting silliness.
 
Fenton said:
Your'e a dishonest representation who doesn't possess the humility or courage to admit youv'e had your ass handed to you.

That your one primary talking point, the sacred " Bush lied People Died " Liberal chant has been exposed as a empty construct. A lie.

Democrats lie continuously. Its got to be genetic.

Not too mention I JUST posted a video that shows the death and misery from Saddams Gas attacks on the Kurds.

But I guess that was BS too huh ?

No not even the truth can get in the way of your false narratives.

The truth is more and more Americans are realizing what a huge steaming heap the Democrat party actually is as almost everyone of your memes is shot down, disassembled and exposed as Bull Sh**.

I Post actual quotes of Democrats admitting Saddam had WMDs in the late 90s and you say they're out of context.

You guys hold onto something no matter how often your error is pointed out to you.
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Not actually true. Looky here: Trend in Party Identification | Pew Research Center for the People and the Press

Plus scatter charts of all polling paints and even more dismal picture on Americans' opinion of Ds vs. Rs: http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/party-identification
 
Boo Radley said:
Again, read his statements. Ad read how you're using quotes out of context. Be honest and actually examine the nonsense you post.
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Which lie's of Kerry's am I supposed to believe? Based on his demonstrated lack of integrity and honesty on a host of different subjects over the years, it would be way less than smart to take him at his word on any subject. At any time.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
Which lie's of Kerry's am I supposed to believe? Based on his demonstrated lack of integrity and honesty on a host of different subjects over the years, it would be way less than smart to take him at his word on any subject. At any time.
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Whether you think he lies or not is irrelevant. He did exactly what he said he'd do in this case. And concerning the comments, the point you continue to ignore, they were all said within a context. Not acknowledging that is dishonest.
 
Anyone who only just noticed signs of economic decline must have been comatose the last five years since Wall Street did a flight 93 on the world's economy.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Anyone who only just noticed signs of economic decline must have been comatose the last five years since Wall Street did a flight 93 on the world's economy.
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Obama made them do that. That's what stealth double secret cone of silence communist Marxist socialist heathen Muslim terrorist do.

:coffeepap

Couldn't resist. Sorry.
 
Manc Skipper said:
Anyone who only just noticed signs of economic decline
must have been comatose the last five years since Wall Street did a flight 93
on the world's economy.
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Wall Steeet ? LOL !!!

The ignorance is catching apparently.

First of all Wall Street and the banks have never had it so good under any other President.

And second, how desperatrly pathetic is it that the best you Libs can do 5 ears in is blame Obama's predecessor.

Ans for something he did not do. The Democrats set up Fannie and Freddie to be run like ENRON in the 90s and it cost the Treasury 5 trillion in 2008.
 
Boo Radley said:
Obama made them do that. That's what stealth
double secret cone of silence communist Marxist socialist heathen Muslim terrorist do.

:coffeepap

Couldn't resist. Sorry.
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Youv'e again decided to go off half cocked not knowing what the hell you're talking about.

He's done more for Wall Street and the banks than ANY other President and as a plaintiffs attorney in Chicago wen't around filing false "discrimination" claims while Clinton and Janet Reno were threatening banks who would not play ball.

Obama, as a Senator was #3 on the list of Politicians who recieved the Highest campaign Contributions from the Corrupt Fannie and Freddie.

FFS Fannie Mae started injecting " AAA" toxic MBSs into the Markets long before they were privately created in the 2000s and bought up to 40% of ALL private MBSs by 2004.

Thats right around the time Fannies regulator was warning Democrats of the impending collapse.

The Democrats response to the warnings ? Sit in front of Republican chaired Committees and lie about the fiscal health of the GSEs.

Just like they're doing now.
 
Fenton said:
Youv'e again decided to go off half cocked not knowing what the hell you're talking about.

He's done more for Wall Street and the banks than ANY other President and as a plaintiffs attorney in Chicago wen't around filing false "discrimination" claims while Clinton and Janet Reno were threatening banks who would not play ball.

Obama, as a Senator was #3 on the list of Politicians who recieved the Highest campaign Contributions from the Corrupt Fannie and Freddie.

FFS Fannie Mae started injecting " AAA" toxic MBSs into the Markets long before they were privately created in the 2000s and bought up to 40% of ALL private MBSs by 2004.

Thats right around the time Fannies regulator was warning Democrats of the impending collapse.

The Democrats response to the warnings ? Sit in front of Republican chaired Committees and lie about the fiscal health of the GSEs.

Just like they're doing now.
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Thanks for giving credence to my joke. Without you, it'd just be nonsensenical. You give it meat. Thanks.

:lamo :lamo. :lamo
 
Boo Radley said:
Yes I am. No wmds. A degraded country barely holding on. No real threat outside of Iraq. Quite needless.
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So a President is supposed to ignore the CIA, other foreign intelligence agencies all because somebody that goes by Boo Radley using dishonest 20/20 hindsight says so. naw, naw. I'll stick with the system the presidents use.
 
Boo Radley said:
Whether you think he lies or not is irrelevant. He did exactly what he said he'd do in this case. And concerning the comments, the point you continue to ignore, they were all said within a context. Not acknowledging that is dishonest.
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You are correct. Whether I think he lies or not is irrelevant. He is a proven liar beyond any doubt and still ends up Sec of State. But it says a lot about two people in particular (him and the guy that appointed him) and a large group of people in general (those that disregard his lies because he is a leftist).
 
ItAin'tFree said:
So a President is supposed to ignore the CIA, other foreign intelligence agencies all because somebody that goes by Boo Radley using dishonest 20/20 hindsight says so. naw, naw. I'll stick with the system the presidents use.
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You really have no idea what happened, do you? Bush had to used doubted intel, doubted by the CIA, to lead us to war. You really need to read up as it is quite far down the road for someone to not know this.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
You are correct. Whether I think he lies or not is irrelevant. He is a proven liar beyond any doubt and still ends up Sec of State. But it says a lot about two people in particular (him and the guy that appointed him) and a large group of people in general (those that disregard his lies because he is a leftist).
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All politicians have lied, but that's not the point here. Here we know he did not lie about he'd do. He said he'd oppose Bush if he went outside the UN, and he did. This is merely a fact.
 
ItAin'tFree said:
So a President is supposed to ignore the CIA, other foreign intelligence agencies all because somebody that goes by Boo Radley using dishonest 20/20 hindsight says so. naw, naw. I'll stick with the system the presidents use.
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yeah right...I mean wrong...there were no WMDs as reliable intelligence said there were none.

And even when the UN failed to find any WMDs President G W Bush dropped bombs on Iraq anyway as his personal vendetta.
 
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