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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You believe a claim not proven. That says it all.
    Hmmmm....Sounds like man made Global Warming....
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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Nope, we knew about that attack. So, throwing that up doesn't support your claim. You're dancing tinker bell.
    Good grief!:....I am sure you think this is part of civil discussion.... Do us all a favor Joe, and quit trying to be clever, you can't pull it off.
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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    I don't think you read the post very well, because nothing that you just
    said is at odds with the post I quoted. They're both right.
    You basically attributed legitimacy to Nextextra's diatribe.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You believe a claim not proven. That says it all.
    John Kerry made a claim back in the early 70's that he was himself, a war criminal. Here's what he had to say to NBC's meet the press;
    "There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."-John Kerry

    Now people capable of thought, figured the then young man to be nothing more than a liar. People capable of thought, figured the same thing when he told additional lies to the Senate around the same time, nothing more than a young man telling a pack of lies. Had anyone in a position of authority been stupid enough to believe a word out of his mouth, Kerry would have been charged with crimes.

    So do you believe John Kerry is a war criminal? He said he was.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    Have you ever read the "Authorization for use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002"? I didn't think so. It must list at least 50 different UN resolutions that Iraq had failed to follow or was just going through the motions on. John Kerry was and is full of crap. He votes for authorization of the use of force then wants to cherry pick his way out of his own vote. But liars lie and he hasn't changed one bit over the years.

    The UN resolutions listed in the "Authorization for use of Military Force against Iraq resolution of 2002" are just a part of what is included in the act. There are many other justification's and reasons cited as reasons why we were to go to war with Iraq. Once again, John Kerry is full of crap because apparently he doesn't mention those. One of the many other reasons listed that the Democrat and Republican members of the House and Senate cited in passing the "Authorization for use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002" was the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998". Yes that's right, check the date out that bill became public law of the United States of America. Guess what President signed that bill into law, it wasn't Bush. Here's a little part of what's included in the 1998 law that was used in part for justification of the Iraq War:
    "SEC. 3. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS REGARDING UNITED STATES POLICY TOWARD IRAQ.

    It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."


    Now granted the 1998 law did not authorize war against Iraq but the policy established in 1998 by the US Government had never changed so the law in 2002 used in part, the 1998 policy. Now why doesn't John Kerry talk about that instead of telling his lies?
    I've read it, the all of the kit hen sink approach doesn't add up to invasion. And you last sentence does not say: we declare war on Iraq. At the end if the day, the final decision was left up to Bush, and Bush alone. He and he alone ad the final word.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Hmmmm....Sounds like man made Global Warming....
    Man made global warming has tons more evidence. So if you guys were t all consistent, you'd doubt it.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Good grief!:....I am sure you think this is part of civil discussion.... Do us all a favor Joe, and quit trying to be clever, you can't pull it off.
    It's that humor thing. I don't think you ever get it. Pull it off or not, relax just a little.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    John Kerry made a claim back in the early 70's that he was himself, a war criminal. Here's what he had to say to NBC's meet the press;
    "There are all kinds of atrocities, and I would have to say that, yes, yes, I committed the same kind of atrocities as thousands of other soldiers have committed in that I took part in shootings in free fire zones. I conducted harassment and interdiction fire. I used 50 calibre machine guns, which we were granted and ordered to use, which were our only weapon against people. I took part in search and destroy missions, in the burning of villages. All of this is contrary to the laws of warfare, all of this is contrary to the Geneva Conventions and all of this is ordered as a matter of written established policy by the government of the United States from the top down. And I believe that the men who designed these, the men who designed the free fire zone, the men who ordered us, the men who signed off the air raid strike areas, I think these men, by the letter of the law, the same letter of the law that tried Lieutenant Calley, are war criminals."-John Kerry

    Now people capable of thought, figured the then young man to be nothing more than a liar. People capable of thought, figured the same thing when he told additional lies to the Senate around the same time, nothing more than a young man telling a pack of lies. Had anyone in a position of authority been stupid enough to believe a word out of his mouth, Kerry would have been charged with crimes.

    So do you believe John Kerry is a war criminal? He said he was.
    Yes, we all know these things. And I know context doesn't matter to some, so I won't bother to educate you on the history of VN.

    As for Kerry, as I politician, I'd never consider him or any politician, republican or democrat or libertarian, to be honest. But in the context of what he said he'd do when he signed to pass the buck to Bush, he did in fact do what he said he'd do.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Man made global warming has tons more evidence.
    So you're a religious man....
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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    So you're a religious man....
    Nope. On this, I'm a science man. No denier faith here.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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