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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post

    Judging from your previous post, that really surprises me.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Don't promote the oil one myself, but in the words of
    Straffor, Bush told the wrong lie when he made the WMD claim, as it was too easily shown to be a lie.
    Oh Bull Sh**.

    You guys manufactured a narrative built of false pretenses.

    Right after multiple Democrats admitted to Saddams WMD iniatives.

    Quotes youve SEEN !

    There were no lies, just enough time for Saddam to move what ever he could into Syria, and hide the rest.

    The people who still believe " he lied" are the people that still support a failure of a President in Obama.

    People are starting to consider the source, lets put it that way.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Oh Bull Sh**.

    You guys manufactured a narrative built of false pretenses.

    Right after multiple Democrats admitted to Saddams WMD iniatives.

    Quotes youve SEEN !

    There were no lies, just enough time for Saddam to move what ever he could into Syria, and hide the rest.

    The people who still believe " he lied" are the people that still support a failure of a President in Obama.

    People are starting to consider the source, lets put it that way.
    You believe a claim not proven. That says it all.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    No, it's really good. Like the opposite of the assumptions you just made
    about what I believe.
    No, it's generic one dimensional nonsense. It's the. "anti-corporate greed runs the world" knee jerk narrative that only appeals to the young and weak minded partisans who rely on the simplistic evaluations of complex issues because a more in depth and accurate analysis hurts " their litte pointy heads ".

    Corporations want to make profit ?

    NO SH** ?!

    Here's a concept, improve your marketabillty, improve yourself to the point that you're a asset to those " EEEBIL CORPORATIONS "...

    Then, " like Magic" the rewards will follow. If your job or posotion OR SKILLS become redundant, Retrain, go back to school, continue to improve yourself and your condition.

    If your'e just too stupid to accomplish any of that, or too lazy, so what, lifes a bitch and no its not fair.

    Thinking that a Government Entity should be the arbiter of whats fair, or " equal", or should mandate policies that enact some type of arbitrary economic or social justice is absolute folly.

    FFS, that's what created the Sub-Prime Collapse. THAT'S what poisoned international markets and our FED and our Treasury for decades to come.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You believe a claim not proven. That says it all.
    You DISBELIEVE a claim proven. THAT says it all.

    Or do I need to post the video showing the consequence of Saddam Husseins Gas attack that killed over a 100 thousand Kurds ?

    You know, so you can ignore it again ?

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, it's generic one dimensional nonsense. It's the. "anti-corporate greed runs the world" knee jerk narrative that only appeals to the young and weak minded partisans who rely on the simplistic evaluations of complex issues because a more in depth and accurate analysis hurts " their litte pointy heads ".

    Corporations want to make profit ?

    NO SH** ?!

    Here's a concept, improve your marketabillty, improve yourself to the point that you're a asset to those " EEEBIL CORPORATIONS "...

    Then, " like Magic" the rewards will follow. If your job or posotion OR SKILLS become redundant, Retrain, go back to school, continue to improve yourself and your condition.

    If your'e just too stupid to accomplish any of that, or too lazy, so what, lifes a bitch and no its not fair.

    Thinking that a Government Entity should be the arbiter of whats fair, or " equal", or should mandate policies that enact some type of arbitrary economic or social justice is absolute folly.

    FFS, that's what created the Sub-Prime Collapse. THAT'S what poisoned international markets and our FED and our Treasury for decades to come.
    I don't think you read the post very well, because nothing that you just said is at odds with the post I quoted. They're both right.
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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You DISBELIEVE a claim proven. THAT says it all.

    Or do I need to post the video showing the consequence of Saddam Husseins Gas attack that killed over a 100 thousand Kurds ?

    You know, so you can ignore it again ?
    Nope, we knew about that attack. So, throwing that up doesn't support your claim. You're dancing tinker bell.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    No, it's generic one dimensional nonsense. It's the. "anti-corporate greed runs the world" knee jerk narrative that only appeals to the young and weak minded partisans who rely on the simplistic evaluations of complex issues because a more in depth and accurate analysis hurts " their litte pointy heads ".

    Corporations want to make profit ?

    NO SH** ?!

    Here's a concept, improve your marketabillty, improve yourself to the point that you're a asset to those " EEEBIL CORPORATIONS "...

    Then, " like Magic" the rewards will follow. If your job or posotion OR SKILLS become redundant, Retrain, go back to school, continue to improve yourself and your condition.

    If your'e just too stupid to accomplish any of that, or too lazy, so what, lifes a bitch and no its not fair.

    Thinking that a Government Entity should be the arbiter of whats fair, or " equal", or should mandate policies that enact some type of arbitrary economic or social justice is absolute folly.

    FFS, that's what created the Sub-Prime Collapse. THAT'S what poisoned international markets and our FED and our Treasury for decades to come.
    You should've put this at the beginning of your post
    Veni. Vidi. Vici.
    -Gaius Julius Caesar
    The Only Thing to Fear is Fear Itself.
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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    So, when they say, as Kerry did, not to invade outside the UN, this doesn't show intend?

    No, they explained a lot that hey wanted to put muscle behind his threat, but did not to invade outside the UN. If we care at all about being accurate, we take it all in.
    Have you ever read the "Authorization for use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002"? I didn't think so. It must list at least 50 different UN resolutions that Iraq had failed to follow or was just going through the motions on. John Kerry was and is full of crap. He votes for authorization of the use of force then wants to cherry pick his way out of his own vote. But liars lie and he hasn't changed one bit over the years.

    The UN resolutions listed in the "Authorization for use of Military Force against Iraq resolution of 2002" are just a part of what is included in the act. There are many other justification's and reasons cited as reasons why we were to go to war with Iraq. Once again, John Kerry is full of crap because apparently he doesn't mention those. One of the many other reasons listed that the Democrat and Republican members of the House and Senate cited in passing the "Authorization for use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002" was the "Iraq Liberation Act of 1998". Yes that's right, check the date out that bill became public law of the United States of America. Guess what President signed that bill into law, it wasn't Bush. Here's a little part of what's included in the 1998 law that was used in part for justification of the Iraq War:
    "SEC. 3. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS REGARDING UNITED STATES POLICY TOWARD IRAQ.

    It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."


    Now granted the 1998 law did not authorize war against Iraq but the policy established in 1998 by the US Government had never changed so the law in 2002 used in part, the 1998 policy. Now why doesn't John Kerry talk about that instead of telling his lies?

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    "SEC. 3. SENSE OF THE CONGRESS REGARDING UNITED STATES POLICY TOWARD IRAQ.

    It should be the policy of the United States to support efforts to remove the regime headed by Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq and to promote the emergence of a democratic government to replace that regime."


    Now granted the 1998 law did not authorize war against Iraq but the policy established in 1998 by the US Government had never changed so the law in 2002 used in part, the 1998 policy. Now why doesn't John Kerry talk about that instead of telling his lies?
    I know, I know quoting myself but I left out a very important thing or two about the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.

    First off, Sen John Kerry voted for the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998.

    Second off here's what President Clinton had to say when he signed the Iraq Liberation Act of 1998 into law:

    "Iraq admitted, among other things, an offensive biological warfare capability, notably, 5,000 gallons of botulinum, which causes botulism; 2,000 gallons of anthrax; 25 biological-filled Scud warheads; and 157 aerial bombs. And I might say UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq has actually greatly understated its production.... Over the past few months, as [the weapons inspectors] have come closer and closer to rooting out Iraq's remaining nuclear capacity, Saddam has undertaken yet another gambit to thwart their ambitions by imposing debilitating conditions on the inspectors and declaring key sites which have still not been inspected off limits.... It is obvious that there is an attempt here, based on the whole history of this operation since 1991, to protect whatever remains of his capacity to produce weapons of mass destruction, the missiles to deliver them, and the feed stocks necessary to produce them. The UNSCOM inspectors believe that Iraq still has stockpiles of chemical and biological munitions, a small force of Scud-type missiles, and the capacity to restart quickly its production program and build many, many more weapons.... Now, let's imagine the future. What if he fails to comply and we fail to act, or we take some ambiguous third route, which gives him yet more opportunities to develop this program of weapons of mass destruction and continue to press for the release of the sanctions and continue to ignore the solemn commitments that he made? Well, he will conclude that the international community has lost its will. He will then conclude that he can go right on and do more to rebuild an arsenal of devastating destruction. And some day, some way, I guarantee you he'll use the arsenal.... President Clinton ~ 1998"

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