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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I fail to see how this is on topic of my response. Unless it was a compliment. In that case thank you.
    Not a compliment. The poster you responded to explained the issues we face today started in the past. This is reasonable to explain. That it is a by product of capitalism may be true. But the causes are still the causes, and examining them is more helpful that wrongly blaming presidents.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Mostly I agree, but the silliness with Obama has been worse than I recall. Even Bush, who actually did really crappy ****, didn't see this kind of over the top hyperbole. So, I think it should be examined. Just throwing it off out of hand seems wishful thinking.
    No?

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    No?
    Not even close. And Bush had to start two wars to get that. His post election was pretty good considering.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not a compliment. The poster you responded to explained the issues we face today started in the past. This is reasonable to explain. That it is a by product of capitalism may be true. But the causes are still the causes, and examining them is more helpful that wrongly blaming presidents.
    Causes are still causes, but comments like "that's capitalism for you" implies that such causes are the root problem, rather then the problems merely being a temporary side effect.

    Not to mention, his analysis is only sufficient in its incompleteness. His examples and support lack context and seem to imply a static trend without any consideration for changing circumstances. For instance, he mentions about how cheap overseas labor has undermined the American worker. A fair point, except instead of expanding on it, he merely accepts this as a final, static conclusion. It does not seem to occur to him to take into consideration that wages are rising quite rapidly in many of these low income nations. The best evidence for this is in the explosion of the population of the global middle class, which is set to reach just a hair under 5 billion people by 2030, a 272% increase. As the world becomes increasingly wealthier, the supply of cheap labor begins to shrink to the point where jobs in the US, with its technological advantage and an abundance of cheap domestic gas, will become increasingly competitive. Evidence of this is already emerging if one just opens up his/her horizons a bit. Point is, he is taking a 2D view in a 3D world.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Not even close. And Bush had to start two wars to get that. His post election was pretty good considering.
    Since when was hyperbole not hyperbole? There are plenty of policy issues that many conservatives disagree with Obama about. I don't understand why people act as if you could never disagree with the guy or his policies.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    No?
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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    Was this the change you liberal progressives were waiting for? Was this the plan? All this talk, and excuse making for a failed liberal agenda of bringing all boats down in the name of "fairness" is bull****! We are NOT better off with Obama in office! We are NOT recovering under his administration, because that was never the plan. We are in decline, ushered in, and sped up by this progressive trash in the WH for the purpose of bringing this country down, because he can't stand what our place in the world was.

    Don't agree with me? I couldn't care less! IF all you want to do is attack, then do us all a favor and don't post in this thread. If you want to discuss the conclusion of the AP report, then I am listening.
    It's kinda tough to put the blame of less economic security solely on the Obama administration when Congress won't even pass the kind of laws that President Obama would want in order to deal with it.

    So Congress is just as much to blame as President Obama is.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Photoshop.
    Even if it was, its still hyperbole.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by samsmart View Post
    It's kinda tough to put the blame of less economic security solely on the Obama administration when Congress won't even pass the kind of laws that President Obama would want in order to deal with it.

    So Congress is just as much to blame as President Obama is.

    LOL.

    He had a two year free run controlling both houses of congress and of course the White House. The American voter said no to his unchecked ideas. Had he pushed for proven successful ideas his first two years as president, he might still control both houses. Instead, he pushed for proven failed ideas and got them through with flying colors. He cooked his own goose his first two years and the only thing preventing additional damage is the House.

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    Re: Signs of declining economic security

    Quote Originally Posted by ItAin'tFree View Post
    LOL.

    He had a two year free run controlling both houses of congress and of course the White House. The American voter said no to his unchecked ideas. Had he pushed for proven successful ideas his first two years as president, he might still control both houses. Instead, he pushed for proven failed ideas and got them through with flying colors. He cooked his own goose his first two years and the only thing preventing additional damage is the House.
    And yet he was elected to a second term by the people as well.

    And all three branches of government are responsible for the well-being of the United States - not just one.
    Also, we need to legalize recreational drugs and prostitution.

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