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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Oh good, we should all suffer across the country so texas oil tycoons can become richer. I can see why texas would want it, but that is not a good argument for the rest of the states.
    Fine by me. Let those who voted for Obama suffer and those who didn't gain. Perfectly good plan to me. Screw the Libo's. Others don't have the refineries because of their goon squad, the EPA, so it's their own damned fault.

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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    If only Carter had a 2nd term...
    it is unbelievable that we are still having this debate when, Tesla cars and the Prius are available

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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    As would North Dakota. Screw the rest of the states.
    yeah, except for the gas prices being over 20 cents more per gallon because the gas they get now has to be shipped up to them from texas refineries who sell on a global market instead of shipped down to them from canada.

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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Let's be kind and say that when the article you cite talks about higher priced crude, it is talking about the spread between Brent and WTI. At the time of the article the spread was very high, approximately $20/barrel.

    Currently there is virtually no spread between Brent and WTI, so the premise of this thread is false on it's face.
    So your evidence this is not true is the effect of the pipeline that causes oil prices to rise in the midwest. Doesn't that mean the effects are true?

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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Fine by me. Let those who voted for Obama suffer and those who didn't gain. Perfectly good plan to me. Screw the Libo's. Others don't have the refineries because of their goon squad, the EPA, so it's their own damned fault.

    You also seem to of confused me with someone who actually cares about many sections of our country anymore. The vote for Libo's, ****'em, I don't give a damn.
    So what you are saying is everyone else should allow this because it benefits texas and you like that? You might want to find a good reason for other people to vote for that because it doesn't seem texas is a good reason for the rest of us.

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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    So what you are saying is everyone else should allow this because it benefits texas and you like that? You might want to find a good reason for other people to vote for that because it doesn't seem texas is a good reason for the rest of us.
    And what reason have ya'll given the citizens of the Republic to give a damn about you?
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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices - NBC News.com



    So why do the oil companies really want the oil pumped way down to texas as opposed to just refining it for US sales in the north? It seems that oil is not able to find a global market due to it being landlocked. This means it is already being distributed at lower costs to the american midwest keeping their gas prices down. When it gets pumped to texas it will be able to be placed into global markets which will in turn increase it's value. Isn't it amazing how stupid it sounded to some of us to go through the expense of a cross country pipeline just to get this oil to texas for something they could do elsewhere? Yet we hear from conservative tools that texas is the only place that can handle this and we will all reap the benefits of cheaper gasoline and oil if we sacrifice for this insane plan. in the end we find that it is really just a marketing ploy to get more profit from oil for the oil companies while screwing the rest of us over.

    Perhaps they should rename drill baby drill to screw them baby screw em?
    Have a look at the map and ask yourself why they say there is a "glut of crude oil backing up in the Midwest". Cars don't burn crude oil, which means the businesses that are operating there produce less than they otherwise would. Do you have something against good-paying jobs popping up in the Midwest? Google Image Result for http://www.eia.gov/todayinenergy/images/2012.07.19/refinerymaplarge.png

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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Quote Originally Posted by differentDEM View Post
    If only Carter had a 2nd term...
    it is unbelievable that we are still having this debate when, Tesla cars and the Prius are available

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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    Pipelines are infrastructure, and they require a sizable workforce to construct.

    Isn't that what deficit jobs programs are supposed to do, according to liberal theology?
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    Re: Why the Keystone pipeline would boost pump prices

    The problem of course is that the Oil ships from Canada, travels several thousand miles across American resevoirs and croplands, and then gets refined and shipped across the world. The U.S. takes almost all the risks so that the rest of the world can get lower prices. That's not oil that's going to benefit American exlusively or even primarily. But I'd be fine with this setup if the states/companies with the pipelines would handle the infrastructure, but they usually don't. Another problem is if/when an oil spill takes place then FEDERAL DOLLARS will be used to clean up the mess. The states/corporations involved should be responsible for the cleanup, but we all know that that won't happen. It's yet another example of privatizing profits and socializing losses that we've seen year after year.

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