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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    No, it straight up kills certain types of cancer cells, and severely damages others, all while leaving (or possibly even actively protecting) the healthy cells. This has been proven beyond any doubt.

     
    "Cannabinoids may cause antitumor effects by various mechanisms, including induction of cell death, inhibition of cell growth, and inhibition of tumor angiogenesis invasion and metastasis.[9-12] One review summarizes the molecular mechanisms of action of cannabinoids as antitumor agents.[13] Cannabinoids appear to kill tumor cells but do not affect their nontransformed counterparts and may even protect them from cell death. These compounds have been shown to induce apoptosis in glioma cells in culture and induce regression of glioma tumors in mice and rats. Cannabinoids protect normal glial cells of astroglial and oligodendroglial lineages from apoptosis mediated by the CB1 receptor.[14]"
    Cannabis and Cannabinoids (PDQ) - National Cancer Institute

    That's why people prefer it over chemotherapy, because chemo kills ALL the cells including the healthy ones. Cannabinoids only destroy the cancerous cells while actively protecting the healthy ones. Pretty cool stuff




    It's hard to see how someone who is usually so reasonable would say something so absurd
    If cannabinoids truly have anti-tumor effects, and better without side-effects than current FDA-approved drugs, then there either is or is being developed an FDA and AMA -appoved pharmaceutical based upon cannabinoids minus the negative side-effects in sufficient strength to be effective.

    Pot simply is not one of those pharmaceuticals, obviously, and it's doubtful that the pot delivery system provides the medicinal value the NCI references in the study -- a more effective actual medicine would be required.

    A number of herbs may be shown to kill cancer cells .. just not enough to seriously matter, or without drugging or other negative side effects to make it to the list of current FDA and AMA -approved treatments.

    This is not a "bureaucracy resistance" on the part of the FDA and the AMA.

    It is a matter of responsibly presenting the pharmaceutical with the greatest efficacy and least side-effects, nothing more.

    Obfuscating that pot is a "cancer fighter" simply to make it easier "to get my drug!" is .. simply that: obfuscation employing subterfuge.
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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by JRSaindo View Post
    the poverty level of those who use would drop since they aren't spending half their check on something they can easily grow in their backyard.
    If someone is spending half their paycheck on recreational drug use, I hardly have sympathy for their plight, and they certainly have larger issues than the legal status of that recreational drug

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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    "One of the dispensaries was the Bayside Collective in Olympia, the state capital, where seven government vehicles converged Wednesday morning. Agents with guns drawn seized business records and about $2,500 worth of marijuana intended for cancer patients"

    Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    I'd make some snarky comment, but I'm not in the mood. I'm just too disgusted.
    States rights. I hope it goes to the supreme court. The feds need to be bitchslapped, and this could be a good starting point.
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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Because national drug laws trump state drug laws. If a state wants to waste its time letting people vote on it, then it doesn't make it any less illegal.
    Yes and no. Has this been before SCOTUS yet? Do the feds have the grant to make federal drug law other than on federal property (and maybe D.C.)?

    But the DOJ and this POTUS screwed that pooch even if they do have the constitutional power. They took Arizona to the woodshed for trying to enforce federal law. What that means here is that the feds are the only ones who can bust folks in Washington state for pot. The locals and the staties cannot because pot, in limited quantity and all the medical stuff is legal in that state.

    What I'd like to see from the folks of Washington state as a reaction is to command their law enforcement not to cooperate with the feds on these raids. No material, no bodies, no vehicles AND no shelter from local law. So if the feds break any speed laws - arrest them and impound their vehicles.

    And have to say, it's heinous they are busting the MEDICAL dispensaries.

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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes and no. Has this been before SCOTUS yet? Do the feds have the grant to make federal drug law other than on federal property (and maybe D.C.)?

    But the DOJ and this POTUS screwed that pooch even if they do have the constitutional power. They took Arizona to the woodshed for trying to enforce federal law. What that means here is that the feds are the only ones who can bust folks in Washington state for pot. The locals and the staties cannot because pot, in limited quantity and all the medical stuff is legal in that state.

    What I'd like to see from the folks of Washington state as a reaction is to command their law enforcement not to cooperate with the feds on these raids. No material, no bodies, no vehicles AND no shelter from local law. So if the feds break any speed laws - arrest them and impound their vehicles.

    And have to say, it's heinous they are busting the MEDICAL dispensaries.

    Yeah I'd like to see the 82nd Airborne take Seattle too and be all scorched earth about it, but that is something for Hollywood, not reality.

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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    I don't care if it's medicine or not. People should have the sovereign right to put whatever they want into their bodies, and to alter their own consciousness as they please.

    The FDA has caused too many crimes against humanity to slip by. The War on Drugs is an abysmal failure.

    The same people who say "federal law trumps state law" are the same people who cry about States rights when it's something they support.

    The people of WA have spoken, the Fed needs to GTFO.

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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    "One of the dispensaries was the Bayside Collective in Olympia, the state capital, where seven government vehicles converged Wednesday morning. Agents with guns drawn seized business records and about $2,500 worth of marijuana intended for cancer patients"

    Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    I'd make some snarky comment, but I'm not in the mood. I'm just too disgusted.
    The Federal government is not taking too kindly to this because how dare anyone question their authority? If the owners of such places weren't such the hippy-dippy types; they would have been well within their rights to open fire.
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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by Hard Truth View Post
    I carpooled with a DOJ employee recently. I said "you guys must not have much to do since you have the time to bust medical cannabis clubs. I guess there aren't any serious crimes to spend your time on."
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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    Quote Originally Posted by HumanBeing View Post
    "One of the dispensaries was the Bayside Collective in Olympia, the state capital, where seven government vehicles converged Wednesday morning. Agents with guns drawn seized business records and about $2,500 worth of marijuana intended for cancer patients"

    Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    I'd make some snarky comment, but I'm not in the mood. I'm just too disgusted.

    Its a shame Washington's laws are not similar to the states that are proposing pro-2nd amendment laws where feds can be arrested.
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    Re: Feds Raid Pot Dispensaries in Washington, Where the Drug is Legal

    When someone ignores vast evidence of a law being unjust and deleterious to society, merely because they want to uphold the Rule of Law...people are disinclined to give their opinion more weight than a puff of smoke.

    The persistence of prohibition results in government agents being harder pressed to receive any sort of respect that doesn't come from the threat of masked goons kicking down doors and shooting family pets.

    To quote a significant portion of the population disaffected by these obdurate policies, "**** the police."

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