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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    She's hardly flawless but the same could be said of Obama - the guy who won the last election.

    The election is over 3 years away. If this US continues its slow, painful recovery, we'll be in decent shape by that time.

    If the GOP doesn't show some wisdom in their platform or candidate choice, she may well win by default rather than merit. The GOP has 3 years to straighten up, I'm seeing a few small signs. We shall see.
    Gindal was pretty good statements a few months ago on immigration. However, he's not a college educated hillbilly like a large percentage of high ranking Republicans. So his perspective is a lot different:

    Gov. Bobby Jindal on Immigration | National Review Online

    Increase legal immigration, by a lot. Letting folks into our country who want to work, get an education, and improve their lives is good for them and good for us. We should increase legal immigration not only for unskilled laborers, but also for skilled workers from all over the world. We need to stop educating the world’s best and brightest engineers and scientists and then upon graduation kick them out of the country so they can compete with us and create growth and wealth in other countries. [Emphasis added]
    However, I'm sure he'll turn around by 2015.
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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Define "served" because as the Sec State she was a disaster, cost 4 Americans their lives and then lied directly to the faces of the parents who lost their sons in Benghazi.

    She pathetic, as a leader and as a human being.
    Kind of reminds me of Iraq, when the Bush Administration lied and costed thousands of American lives...
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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    She's hardly flawless but the same could be said of Obama - the guy who won
    the last election.

    The election is over 3 years away. If this US continues its slow, painful recovery, we'll be in decent shape by that time.

    If the GOP doesn't show some wisdom in their platform or candidate choice, she may well win by default rather than merit. The GOP has 3 years to straighten up, I'm seeing a few small signs. We shall see.
    The GOP and the Dems will be passing the 2016 election back and forth like a hot potato..

    "...no you take it"..."no you take it"..." no YOU take it"....

    Because the Countries fiscal condition by 2016 is going to be irretrievable.

    There is going to be massive debt and a massive unprecedented amount of static liquidity with High Interest Rates and High unemployment and a growing dependent class.

    The consequence of the Democrats appealing to the lowest common denominator.

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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Define "served" because as the Sec State she was a disaster, cost 4 Americans their lives and then lied directly to the faces of the parents who lost their sons in Benghazi.

    She pathetic, as a leader and as a human being.
    Served means that she was Secretary of State. While I don't see any signature accomplishments that would put her on par with an Acheson or Kissinger or Marshall in terms of their historical impact and recognize she made her share of errors (and even the greatest Secretaries of State are not without errors of judgment given the nature of the job), I don't think she was an unmitigated failure either.

    The Benghazi findings are publicly available: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

    Almost certainly her opponents will raise the issue. However, unless new credible evidence is found that goes significantly beyond those findings, the issue is not going to be a deal-breaker should she seek office. Her resilient polling in the face of the widespread controversy related to the issue indicates that new information would be required for the issue to pose a more serious threat to her campaign.

    Having said this, there are no guarantees that she would win were she to seek the office. A lot would depend on her own health, her Democratic Party opposition, and her eventual GOP opponent. Between now and election day is an enormously long period of time, so much can change. If the economy remains sluggish or deteriorates and unemployment rises, any Democratic candidate would face formidable headwinds, barring the GOP's nominating a candidate who has only narrow appeal. On the other hand, if the economy picks up steam and the unemployment rate falls toward 6%, Clinton or any other Democratic nominee could be very difficult to beat. Non-economic issues could also impact the race, but the economic ones will very likely be the most influential ones.

    Other than saying that Secretary Clinton could be a strong candidate, it's premature to suggest that she would be assured of winning the Democratic nomination, much less the Presidency. But as things stand now, she would have a realistic chance of doing so.

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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by specklebang View Post
    She's hardly flawless but the same could be said of Obama - the guy who won the last election.

    The election is over 3 years away. If this US continues its slow, painful recovery, we'll be in decent shape by that time.

    If the GOP doesn't show some wisdom in their platform or candidate choice, she may well win by default rather than merit. The GOP has 3 years to straighten up, I'm seeing a few small signs. We shall see.
    You're comparison to Obama is not without merit - she could very well win. However, does America really need more of the same for another 4 years? And do you want the First Lad to be a former President who has an opinion on everything and is an expert in all?
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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Maybe a 3rd time will be a charm?
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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Served means that she was Secretary of State. While I don't see any signature accomplishments that would put her on par with an Acheson
    or Kissinger or Marshall in terms of their historical impact and recognize she made her share of errors (and even the greatest Secretaries of State are not without errors of judgment given the nature of the job), I don't think she was an unmitigated failure either.

    The Benghazi findings are publicly available: http://www.state.gov/documents/organization/202446.pdf

    Almost certainly her opponents will raise the issue. However, unless new credible evidence is found that goes significantly beyond those findings, the issue is not going to be a deal-breaker should she seek office. Her resilient polling in the face of the widespread controversy related to the issue indicates that new information would be required for the issue to pose a more serious threat to her campaign.

    Having said this, there are no guarantees that she would win were she to seek the office. A lot would depend on her own health, her Democratic Party opposition, and her eventual GOP opponent. Between now and election day is an enormously long period of time, so much can change. If the economy remains sluggish or deteriorates and unemployment rises, any Democratic candidate would face formidable headwinds, barring the GOP's nominating a candidate who has only narrow appeal. On the other hand, if the economy picks up steam and the unemployment rate falls toward 6%, Clinton or any other Democratic nominee could be very difficult to beat. Non-economic issues could also impact the race, but the economic ones will very likely be the most influential ones.

    Other than saying that Secretary Clinton could be a strong candidate, it's premature to suggest that she would be assured of winning the Democratic nomination, much less the Presidency. But as things stand now, she would have a realistic chance of doing so.
    Give me the name of the last Sec of State that lied to the Faces of the parents who's sons lost their lives due to that Sec State's incompetence.

    A lie for one reason, because it was politically expediant in the middle of a election cycle.

    I'll wait

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    Re: Clinton leads potential opponents in new poll

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    The GOP and the Dems will be passing the 2016 election back and forth like a hot potato..

    "...no you take it"..."no you take it"..." no YOU take it"....

    Because the Countries fiscal condition by 2016 is going to be irretrievable.

    There is going to be massive debt and a massive unprecedented amount of static liquidity with High Interest Rates and High unemployment and a growing dependent class.

    The consequence of the Democrats appealing to the lowest common denominator.
    The sky is falling! The sky is falling!
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