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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    Asinine. Now we need a government database as to whether or not you want to look at porn.

    I want to say I'm shocked it seems some conservatives/republicans are coming out supportive of this kind of thing, but sadly I'm not.

    I'd still not like it, but I'd at least be less bothered by it if the Government didn't have the ability to run a check on everyone who has "opted out", but that's just not going to be the case with software like this.

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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    Quote Originally Posted by aseidner View Post
    Read more: UK wants to restrict access to online porn - CNN.com

    In my opinion, this is pretty pathetic.
    Also a tad misleading.. Yes the Prime Minister wants to have a filter in place by the end of next year but he's about the only person calling for this. Others have recognised that the problem and solution lies elsewhere.

    Family filters won't block 'soft' porn: David Cameron retreats in war on internet porn, admitting there will be 'problems down the line' - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

    There's also a strong feeling that Cameron has pushed this story so much to distract everyone from the recent Lynton Crosby affair. Yesterday's Royal Birth should also see Cameron quiet on such matters for a while.

    Everyone's attention is elsewhere - not on complex porn filters which won't affect the paedophiles here anyway.

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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    Quote Originally Posted by Infinite Chaos View Post
    Also a tad misleading.. Yes the Prime Minister wants to have a filter in place by the end of next year but he's about the only person calling for this. Others have recognised that the problem and solution lies elsewhere.

    Family filters won't block 'soft' porn: David Cameron retreats in war on internet porn, admitting there will be 'problems down the line' - UK Politics - UK - The Independent

    There's also a strong feeling that Cameron has pushed this story so much to distract everyone from the recent Lynton Crosby affair. Yesterday's Royal Birth should also see Cameron quiet on such matters for a while.

    Everyone's attention is elsewhere - not on complex porn filters which won't affect the paedophiles here anyway.
    Yep, this kinda popped up out of no where suddenly, right after the lobbying scandal broke, but now it is not needed since everyone is on baby watch.
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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    Thankfully Crosby is stupidly trying to prove there's no conflict of interest and thus keeping the story warm. It's an uphill battle against a Royal baby though.

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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    This - And it's truth, too, not just an argument because I write erotica and watch porn:
    Critics say that automated filtering technology inevitably allows offensive material through accidentally as well as creating "false positives" that block inoffensive content. Others, such as BBC technology correspondent Rory Cellan-Jones, say default-on filters can create a false sense of security among parents, who could become more lax in monitoring their children's online behavior.
    And pointless if the person giving access IS an adult. No 5-year old accidentally keys in 'anal fisting' . . . their later example in the article wouldn't matter because both convicted killers WERE adults. The filters would have meant nothing:

    Two recent British murder trials in which the defendants were each said to have viewed images of child sexual abuse online have heightened public concern over the issue.
    One case was that of April Jones, a 5-year-old girl whose disappearance last year in a remote part of Wales sparked a huge search. Mark Bridger was found guilty of her murder in May, but her body has still not been found. The other was the murder of a 12-year-old girl, Tia Sharp, by her grandmother's partner.
    I'm wondering about this:

    By the end of the year, the filters will become the default setting for anyone setting up broadband Internet service at home, Cameron said.
    All of those filters could be deactivated by those who can "prove" they are 18 or older, Cameron said.
    Exactly what else, other than paying for internet usage, makes it possible to prove you're 18? Right now in the US any methods to prove your age are just faith-based. Answer some questions, they have faith you're being honest. I'm curious as to what they've devised that a savvy 15 year old teen can't alter if they want to.

    It makes me laugh, though - when I think of all the times people in the UK call Americans prudes because we don't want to see flabby tits on the street.
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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Your logic, we might as well **** and piss in public too. Hang around any good fire hydrants lately?
    We were debating if the human form and human interaction are damaging to children, which has nothing to do with ****ting and pissing in public. Can we please stay on topic? Thanks.

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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    Quote Originally Posted by aseidner View Post
    Read more: UK wants to restrict access to online porn - CNN.com

    In my opinion, this is pretty pathetic. Is it really too much to ask that parents take responsibility for keeping their children out of things that they should not be getting into? With a little effort, access to porn sites can be restricted by the computer administrator (which should be the parent). If they are not tech savvy, many programs and services that prevent access to certain types of websites are readily available.
    The UK government believes they're the parents of the child - not the actual parents...

    The UK is pretty authoritarian.

    However, this is what you get when you allow government to just do whatever they want.

    The US won't try this because people here say "no" with their guns, guns are banned in the UK hence the people are powerless. Not that it matters anymore anyways considering 75% of the population there has been brainwashed with the notion that the government is always right (much like Russia), China, North Korea etc...

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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    This whole tread puzzles me.
    If they install "filters", the term implies a fixed list.
    Are they limiting name lookup, or IP addresses, ect.
    I suspect most who are interested could bypass a fixed filter in minuets.
    Once they set a filter, the targets will ether move, or rename to something that
    is not on the list.
    Or go strictly by IP address, and publish access via indirect methods.
    It is very difficult to limit say video, without limiting all video.

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    Re: UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    Quote Originally Posted by longview View Post
    This whole tread puzzles me.
    If they install "filters", the term implies a fixed list.
    Are they limiting name lookup, or IP addresses, ect.
    I suspect most who are interested could bypass a fixed filter in minuets.
    Once they set a filter, the targets will ether move, or rename to something that
    is not on the list.
    Or go strictly by IP address, and publish access via indirect methods.
    It is very difficult to limit say video, without limiting all video.
    They shouldn't be doing any of that because only fascist/authoritarian governments filter or dictate the internet...

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    UK wants to restrict access to online porn

    It's not only completely unworkable but harmful as well.

    The state of the art in filtering quite honestly sucks. But assume a 1% failure - which is giving the filters much more credit than they deserve - and you still have millions of pages of porn that get passed the filters and worse, millions of pages of content that shouldn't be stopped that will be and a lot of that is probably stuff that school students actually need for their school work.

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