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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Surtr View Post
    That's the difference between US Military control, and Iraqi control. They tried that **** before when we were still there, but got sent packing after we killed a **** load of them. I think it was something like 90% of the assaulting force killed and wounded. That was just the personnel we had on site. The Iraqis sent in reinforcements from Baghdad and still lost control of the facility. Fantastic.



    And probably a good preview of what we will see in the future all over Iraq, unfortunately.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I haven't seen any evidence that we helped anyone besides Iran by speeding up the process. We certainly didn't help the USA.
    Invasion of Iran 500k
    Genocide (twice) 250k
    Invasion of Kuwait
    Intentional starvation 400k
    Institutionalized rape
    Large-scale torture
    The violation of 17 Ch7 UNSCRs
    Firing on a no-fly zone established to prevent further genocide
    A fake WMD program


    All of that gone, it's a new Chapter in Iraq's history - one with hope for development.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    So you don't think that the Kurds and Iraqi citizens are any better off with Saddam gone?



    No. I don't believe that the hundreds of thousands of dead and crippled for life Iraqis have gained a thing.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I'm close to 100 percent sure that it will have even more in future years.
    And it will never compare to what Saddam did. When the terrorists kill millions of Iraqis, let me know.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    You did it in Japan and Germany after you carpet bombed the crap out of them for years... and starved the population. So yes there is a difference.
    That's called war, and that's the way one wins them. We try to be a little more humane now. That rarely works. The enemy views it as weakness, and exploits it. So Iraq is a mess, and Afghanistan will be as well.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No. I don't believe that the hundreds of thousands of dead and crippled for life Iraqis have gained a thing.
    That's ignorance of an astounding level.

    Go ask the Kurds or Marsh Arabs.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    No. I don't believe that the hundreds of thousands of dead and crippled for life Iraqis have gained a thing.
    Well, how about the Kurds who don't have to fear being gassed in the streets? How about the Iraqi children that are no longer being deliberately deprived of food by their government? How about the living in Iraq who can now determine their own future?
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Like in Japan?
    they teach calculus to pigs in Japan?
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_State View Post
    I think a huge difference between our Army and let's say the Iraqi Army is our soldiers. We have a different set of core values which sets us apart. It is hard to find soldiers like the ones we make in America.
    We actually train. All the time. Constant training. One company size unit might go through 100,000 rounds in a year, just to ensure unit proficiency with weapons. We can afford that level of training, because it's viewed as the single most important aspect of an effective military. While the enemy is sitting around, jacking off and getting complacent, we're getting ready to kill.

    That's the difference.

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    And probably a good preview of what we will see in the future all over Iraq, unfortunately.
    Most likely.
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    And it will never compare to what Saddam did. When the terrorists kill millions of Iraqis, let me know.



    Unfortunately, before this is over with, lots of Iraqis may wish that they had Saddam back in power.

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