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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    The demographics and culture of Germany and Japan are a bit different from modern day Iraq, but if we ignore the apples to oranges comparison Germany and Japan were conquered.
    Conquered in only the loosest definition of the word. We did not attempt to integrate Germany and Japan into the United States but instead allowed their people to set up their governments.

    Also, I guess you missed my edit. The United States would not exist today if it weren't for "foreigners with guns," and it was never liberated according to your definition of liberation.
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Conquered in only the loosest definition of the word. We did not attempt to integrate Germany and Japan into the United States but instead allowed their people to set up their governments.

    Also, I guess you missed my edit. The United States would not exist today if it weren't for "foreigners with guns," and it was never liberated according to your definition of liberation.
    No the German and Japanese people were conquered, defeated, and told what to do afterwards. We made sure they set up governments more favorable to us.

    Again apples to oranges because the Japanese and Germans were a united people, where as Iraq is fractured into competing entities. Same with the US when it started. If we spent our time fighting ourselves continually and on large scale instead of the British, no number of French guns could have led to a functioning and sustained American government.
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No the German and Japanese people were conquered, defeated, and told what to do afterwards. We made sure they set up governments more favorable to us.
    Alright, for argument's sake let's stick with your definition of "conquered." Does that preclude them having been freed?

    Again apples to oranges because the Japanese and Germans were a united people, where as Iraq is fractured into competing entities. Same with the US when it started. If we spent our time fighting ourselves continually and on large scale instead of the British, no number of French guns could have led to a functioning and sustained American government.
    That has little relevance. It's up to people what they do with their freedom, right?
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