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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Saddam killed more Iraqis per year than the coalition has. If he had been left in power, more would be dead.
    The second part of that statement is speculation. You might find it difficult to back up the first part.
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Saddam had destroyed all the social capital in Iraq.
    How are you using the phrase "social capital"? What does it mean in this context?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Look, how about you let RDS answer his own questions. And if he doesn't, then we know his position is full of crap.
    I will forthwith stop preventing RDS from replying.
    Only the very last of the post you quoted had anything to do w/ RDS.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The second part of that statement is speculation. You might find it difficult to back up the first part.
    Statistics. We can take Saddam's slaughter over his last 20 years, 10 years or 5 years and he averages more kills per year than the coalition (and that's only counting the big stuff).

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    How are you using the phrase "social capital"? What does it mean in this context?
    The existence of educated, free thinking, critical analysis members of society (working together towards development). Anyone like that was killed by Saddam, or forced (through the removal of fingers in many cases) to fall in line and they were utterly debased.

    When it comes to intellectuals, Iraq is a barren landscape. But it will regrow.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Statistics. We can take Saddam's slaughter over his last 20 years, 10 years or 5 years and he averages more kills per year than the coalition (and that's only counting the big stuff).
    okay, for fun, let's do it.

    What number do you have for the entirety of SH's reign?
    When do start counting SH's reign?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The existence of educated, free thinking, critical analysis members of society (working together towards development). Anyone like that was killed by Saddam, or forced (through the removal of fingers in many cases) to fall in line and they were utterly debased.
    When it comes to intellectuals, Iraq is a barren landscape. But it will regrow.
    So you have decided not to count the recent mass exodus from Iraq? It seems if you were counting that, you have to say that the depletion of "social capital" was still ongoing.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No, instead we spent hundreds of billions of dollars and killed off a few thousand soldiers helping it happen.
    With Syria I find it plausible that the majority Islamist elements take control. Since we invaded Iraq we managed to put the quasi-liberal elements in power, give the Kurds greater autonomy and security, and keep ethnic strife to a minimum.
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    With Syria I find it plausible that the majority Islamist elements take control. Since we invaded Iraq we managed to put the quasi-liberal elements in power, give the Kurds greater autonomy and security, and keep ethnic strife to a minimum.
    The hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing Iraq should also get some credit for helping to prevent ethnic violence.
    If they hadn't fled in fear for their lives, the violence would likely have been greater.
    We should also thank those who frightened the refugees enough to flee their homeland. They too played a part in "keep ethnic strife to a minimum" by sending people packing instead of letting them stay to become victims of violence.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

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    Say what?
    Dont read many history books eh?
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    The hundreds of thousands of refugees fleeing Iraq should also get some credit for helping to prevent ethnic violence.
    If they hadn't fled in fear for their lives, the violence would likely have been greater.
    We should also thank those who frightened the refugees enough to flee their homeland. They too played a part in "keep ethnic strife to a minimum" by sending people packing instead of letting them stay to become victims of violence.
    Your point?
    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Of course there is:



    That's an absolute (bold) based on the premise (underlined). Would you like a link to an English class?
    English class? English is not my native language but I can speak and write impeccable English - better than most americans.

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