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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Simon W. Moon View Post
    Came to naught just means that the money was wasted. It doesn't speak to any exclusivity.
    It means that the time and money came to nothing. If the time and money came to nothing, there can be no other objective.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    Now can anyone actually give an honest, direct response to this question:

    Do you think that if Saddam fell without US involvement, Iraq wouldn't have degraded into sectarianism and civil war?



    Since the USA was involved in Saddam Hussein's downfall and demise how do you suggest that we grade the answers to your what if question?




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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It means that the time and money came to nothing. If the time and money came to nothing, there can be no other objective.
    That is, if you remove it from the original statement, remove it from the context.

    The context was terrorism in Iraq. Apparently it was for nothing since terrorism is greater now than in 2003 in Iraq.....and worse still....there was no organized AQ elements operating in Iraq prior to the US's illegal invasion.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It means that the time and money came to nothing. If the time and money came to nothing, there can be no other objective.
    To the un-initiated, it seems that one could have multiple projects and have some of the efforts come to naught but other efforts come to successful fruition.

    Please explain how if I say that one of my projects failed, came to naught, that means that I had no other projects ongoing. I look forward to your response.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    That is, if you remove it from the original statement, remove it from the context.

    The context was terrorism in Iraq. Apparently it was for nothing since terrorism is greater now than in 2003 in Iraq.....and worse still....there was no organized AQ elements operating in Iraq prior to the US's illegal invasion.
    You cannot ignore the claim that 10 years and trillions of dollars came to nothing because of the jail break.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Unfortunately, before this is over with, lots of Iraqis may wish that they had Saddam back in power.
    Even when memories of Saddam were still fresh (2007), 49% preferred life under Saddam compared to 26% preferring life under Maliki.
    Poll: Iraqis prefer life under Maliki to life under Saddam, 49%-26% Hot Air
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You cannot ignore the claim that 10 years and trillions of dollars came to nothing because of the jail break.
    You keep ignoring the context of the original statement. You want to ignore the original statement and turn it into your statement.

    You do this all the time.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You keep ignoring the context of the original statement. You want to ignore the original statement and turn it into your statement.
    The statement was simple: 10 years and trillions of dollars (supposedly) spent on tackling terrorism came to nothing.

    You do this all the time.
    Save the personal attacks for someone who gives a crap.

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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You cannot ignore the claim that 10 years and trillions of dollars came to nothing because of the jail break.
    But, factor in the suicide bombings still going on, and the civil unrest that still prevails in t hat unfortunate country, and one has to wonder just what was accomplished in 10 years, thousands of US soldiers killed, hundreds of billions spent.
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    Re: Jail break at Abu Ghraib

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    But, factor in the suicide bombings still going on, and the civil unrest that still prevails in t hat unfortunate country, and one has to wonder just what was accomplished in 10 years, thousands of US soldiers killed, hundreds of billions spent.
    No more:

    1. Fake WMD program
    2. Genocide
    3. Intentional starvation of hundreds of thousands of children
    3. Institutionalized rape
    4. Government sanctioned and wide spread torture of political opponents
    5. Dictatorship
    6. Invading neighbors
    7. Firing on UN mandated aircraft enforcing a no-fly to prevent genocide
    8. Violations of UNSCRs
    9. Sanctions
    10. Annihilation of social capital

    And now, instead:

    1. Fledgling democracy
    2. Human rights, at least in law if not thoroughly enforced yet
    3. Foreign aid
    4. UN development projects
    5. Other development projects
    6. Foreign business contracts
    7. A future


    There are many other things that were put to an end, and many other things that have changed for the positive, but I think that illustrates some of the big and obvious stuff.

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