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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    Scenario (not totally unlikely): The FBI is using a drone to follow a known child rapist/killer who is suspected of having kidnapped another child and normally keeps the children alive to repeatedly rape before he kills them. The FBI is using a drone because a helicopter would be noticed much sooner by the suspect and the really want to follow him very closely to see if he leads them to the child.

    Some idiot shoots the drone out of the air because he/she feels it violates their privacy rights and the child killer gets away, goes towards the child before the FBI can find him again and kills the child. Yeah, long live civil disobedience!!

    Might be a bit far fetched, but with drones the police can much easier follow people and use observe properties suspected of crime to protect the public. Helicopters are useless because they are seen or heard much more easily and as you said they are expensive and not available in the numbers the police might need in a crisis situation.
    And I am sure that is the excuse and scenario that the proponents of letting the government spy on American citizens will use to allow drones on every street corner.Without that cameras everywhere spying on people crooks could get away. If you do not have drones following people everywhere then people will get away with speeding, shoplifting and so on. It is extremely dangerous letting the government do this.
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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Binary_Digit View Post
    Deer Trail, CO. is considering an ordinance that would grant hunting licenses to shoot unmanned government drones. The FAA threatens criminal and civil liability for the hunters, as though they shot at a manned aircraft.

    Deliberate destruction of government property, or righteous civil disobedience? Personally, I think the drones are unreasonable search because no warrant was issued, and unconstitutional laws should be disobeyed until repealed. But this has a public safety issue that sort-of muddys the water.

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    Easier to jam the drones than shoot them down.

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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    And I am sure that is the excuse and scenario that the proponents of letting the government spy on American citizens will use to allow drones on every street corner.Without that cameras everywhere spying on people crooks could get away. If you do not have drones following people everywhere then people will get away with speeding, shoplifting and so on. It is extremely dangerous letting the government do this.
    I could care less if the government would put cctv cameras on every corner of the street in city centers or in the area of bars and clubs. Public safety will improve and the police will be able to pinpoint their efforts much more clearly and will be able to prosecute much easier.

    Drones could be a danger but only to those who do things that warrant surveillance. If you do nothing wrong the risk of the government watching anything you do with drones is close to zero. Police do not have the manpower or the resources to watch regular traffic with drones or something like that.

    But yes, let's say there are a lot of pick pockets in one area then I think it is perfectly reasonable for police to use a drone to watch that specific area for the thieves. But if the thieves are not found or no one reports their possessions stolen than the police has to delete the footage. There has to be an independent body watching over the shoulder of the government to make sure it does not overstep it's boundaries when it comes to drones and privacy.
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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I could care less if the government would put cctv cameras on every corner of the street in city centers or in the area of bars and clubs. Public safety will improve and the police will be able to pinpoint their efforts much more clearly and will be able to prosecute much easier.

    Drones could be a danger but only to those who do things that warrant surveillance. If you do nothing wrong the risk of the government watching anything you do with drones is close to zero. Police do not have the manpower or the resources to watch regular traffic with drones or something like that.

    But yes, let's say there are a lot of pick pockets in one area then I think it is perfectly reasonable for police to use a drone to watch that specific area for the thieves. But if the thieves are not found or no one reports their possessions stolen than the police has to delete the footage.
    The good old I have nothing to worry about so I don't the government do this excuse.


    There has to be an independent body watching over the shoulder of the government to make sure it does not overstep it's boundaries when it comes to drones and privacy.
    That independent body doesn't exist and will never exist.
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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    i'm sorry, officer. I thought it was a duck. We need a law that, the next time the government sends one of those drones up in the sky over my neighborhood, they must have a huge sign which identifies it, saying "i am not a duck".
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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    So it seems.....

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/16/te...anted=all&_r=0



    Maybe we need a law to protect our "personal space."
    Your "personal space" does not include the sky.
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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I'm sorry, officer. I thought it was a duck. We need a law that, the next time the government sends one of those drones up in the sky over my neighborhood, they must have a huge sign which identifies it, saying "I am not a duck".
    "Must be a goose, then! Yeeeeehaaawww!" *blammo*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quick, Ned! It's coming right for us!
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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Don't shoot guns at drones. Skynet is watching.

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    Re: FAA warns public against shooting guns at drones

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    I could care less if the government would put cctv cameras on every corner of the street in city centers or in the area of bars and clubs. Public safety will improve and the police will be able to pinpoint their efforts much more clearly and will be able to prosecute much easier.

    Drones could be a danger but only to those who do things that warrant surveillance. If you do nothing wrong the risk of the government watching anything you do with drones is close to zero. Police do not have the manpower or the resources to watch regular traffic with drones or something like that.

    But yes, let's say there are a lot of pick pockets in one area then I think it is perfectly reasonable for police to use a drone to watch that specific area for the thieves. But if the thieves are not found or no one reports their possessions stolen than the police has to delete the footage. There has to be an independent body watching over the shoulder of the government to make sure it does not overstep it's boundaries when it comes to drones and privacy.
    You feel free to invite unfettered snooping into your life, even your bedroom.

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