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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    I have no idea what you are ranting about as I deleted nothing. Nor would I delete the truth.

    Perhaps you should look up the term STRAWMAN and learn about it?
    I quoted your post to respond to it. You edited it AFTER I had already clicked "reply with quote". What appears in MY post is the unedited version of what YOU posted. Not surprising that you would try to lie about that too.
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    And now you went back and edited it again.

    Last edited by haymarket; Today at 12:28 PM.
    My response came a minute before your SECOND edit of this post was complete.
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    And now you went back and edited it again.



    My response came a minute before your SECOND edit of this post was complete.
    editing out typos is not a crime..... even in far right wing world now is it?

    What great difference do you see in my post as it exists now and the one you reproduced?
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    there is a LOT of money
    A slight modification from LOTS of money to a LOT of money. How many posts will it take before you admit that there is not near enough money? They are in debt, they are in the hole, it is all red ink.

    enough to cover the pensions, certainly
    That has yet to be seen.
    not enough to pay all the other bills
    so, pay the pensions first consistent with the MI constitution
    When there is no gas left in the tank a Constitution becomes irrelevant.

    having to explain the most basic information allows me to feel for the people who drive the short bus
    Well those short buses aren't making Detroit any money.

    you want to find foolish, read that ^ post. it's ****ing stupid. the USA has LOTS of money. but not enough to pay our debts without incurring a deficit - resulting in long-term debt obligations. does that fact manage to sink in?
    Yes, the Federal government is $17 trillion in debt, and growing, but it's okay because maybe somewhere, someplace, there is some paper claiming that everyone will be paid anyway? Where will that money come from?

    The sad fact is that the once great country has been brought down by the education system that has also ruined Detroit. Even basic math is like a foreign language.

    what do i have to do to allow some folks to realize that a LOT of money does not necessarily mean ENOUGH money
    LOTS of money means sufficient to cover all obligations. What else could it mean? An insufficient amount of money is what leads to bankruptcy, not LOTS of the stuff.
    but there IS enough money to cover the outstanding pension obligations. and the state constitution says those pension obligations will not be diminuated
    Yes it will certainly be "diminuated".


    that you - with your obvious level of experience - do not understand that businesses can have a lot of income but not enough to remain solvent without the protections afforded by filing bankruptcy, is meaningless
    I do have a great deal of business experience and plan realistically for the future without making commitments I cant fulfill. I would never ever allow unions or politicians to make a long term business plan for me, The idea is truly laughable!

    because such scenarios happen all the time - in the real world; not some fictitious place that operates according to your irrational, uneducated, ignorant machinations
    Spoken like a true union person.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    It's extremely unlikely that the U.S. will abandon its constitution anytime during the foreseeable future, especially as the amending process allows for flexibility. There is no serious movement to supplant the constitution with any alternative. By serious movement, I mean one that enjoys a significant share of the population and has or is gaining significant influence. Fringe elements do not constitute a serious movement in that direction.
    No, the government just ignores the Constitution when it's convenient to do so. There's no need to replace it when nobody is held accountable to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    No, the government just ignores the Constitution when it's convenient to do so. There's no need to replace it when nobody is held accountable to it.
    Well ignoring the State Constitution of Michigan is exactly what the bankruptcy proceeding is attempting to do.
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Hillarious. A buddy just sent me a link to a Fox video.

    Apparently they've brought in this left wing lunatic Sally Cohen to be a talking head.

    She was sitting next to Charles Krauthamer,( one of my Favorite Columnist ) going through the Democrat talking points.

    The look on Krauthamers face was priceless. Of course he quickly slapped down her crazy but I still think her solution to Detroits bankruptcy problem was a profound and poignant look upon the inner mind of your average Lib.

    Uhm...no austerity. Yea detroits problem should reinforce just how destructive " austerity" is.

    LOL !! You can't write this stuff.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Well ignoring the State Constitution of Michigan is exactly what the
    bankruptcy proceeding is attempting to do.
    Who's going to pay for it ? They're broke.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Well ignoring the State Constitution of Michigan is exactly what the bankruptcy proceeding is attempting to do.
    So you're fine with some people ignoring it then?
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