Page 27 of 60 FirstFirst ... 17252627282937 ... LastLast
Results 261 to 270 of 593

Thread: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

  1. #261
    long standing member
    justabubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,149

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    I don't know, you tell me. I suspect it has more to do with income levels and cost of living being lower in red states, thus lower tax revenue, than any ideological explanation.
    the point is, republican dominated states require more federal subsidies than those blue states which are dominated by 'free spending' democrats
    notice how silly your proposition is when confronted by facts and reality

    quit speculating and tell us what causes this disparity between red states and blue states
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

  2. #262
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:03 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,273

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    the point is, republican dominated states require more federal subsidies than those blue states which are dominated by 'free spending' democrats
    notice how silly your proposition is when confronted by facts and reality

    quit speculating and tell us what causes this disparity between red states and blue states
    ??? You posted the link, you explain it. If you don't have a counter explanation, then I guess mine stands.

  3. #263
    long standing member
    justabubba's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2005
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:31 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    36,149

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    ??? You posted the link, you explain it. If you don't have a counter explanation, then I guess mine stands.
    my FACTS trump your weak ass speculation

    the fact is red states require a larger federal subsidy than do blue states

    which then tells us red states, dominated by republicans, are less self sustaining economically, which then tells us they are less fiscally responsible

    until you offer facts which refute my facts, you can be found to be nothing other WRONG in your bogus, ignorant and unfounded presentation
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

  4. #264
    OPO extraordinaire

    MACS-24's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Last Seen
    12-13-17 @ 10:32 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    3,426

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Your post makes no sense following what you posted from me. it is irrational and without foundation and is only an attack upon me without any evidence to support it.
    Sorry you can't keep up with your own nonsense and of course it doesn't make sense, logic and facts escape you, but don't worry hay I will not get on your merry-go-round. Unlike most, I don't have patience to go in endless circles with you and normally stay away from any thread you post on - which definately limits my movement. But sometimes your hypocrisy needs highlighted.
    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    If certain gun guys are insulted by that? Good, they should be ashamed: the rest of US are sick and tired of having our intelligence insulted[/i].



  5. #265
    Sage
    Fletch's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Mentor Ohio
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:03 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    15,273

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    my FACTS trump your weak ass speculation

    the fact is red states require a larger federal subsidy than do blue states

    which then tells us red states, dominated by republicans, are less self sustaining economically, which then tells us they are less fiscally responsible

    until you offer facts which refute my facts, you can be found to be nothing other WRONG in your bogus, ignorant and unfounded presentation
    Wow. What crawled up your ass? You made an unfounded assumption and don't like being challenged, I guess. I simply offered another possible explanation and you go berserk. I suspect that if you look at average annual income in Mississippi and compare that to California, you will find a big difference. That difference will be reflected in tax revenue. If the average Mississippian earns 30,000 and the average Californian 50,000, tax revenues from Mississippi will be lower per person. So it stands to reason that all things being equal, Mississippi will get more back per taxpayer. Now, try to address that without going ballistic. If you can.

  6. #266
    Sage

    Join Date
    Sep 2010
    Last Seen
    Today @ 07:50 PM
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    89,919

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by MACS-24 View Post
    Sorry you can't keep up with your own nonsense and of course it doesn't make sense, logic and facts escape you, but don't worry hay I will not get on your merry-go-round. Unlike most, I don't have patience to go in endless circles with you and normally stay away from any thread you post on - which definately limits my movement. But sometimes your hypocrisy needs highlighted.
    You already have gotten on the merry go round. And that tough horsie appears to have thrown you right off again.

    Your post made no sense in any way or on any level or in any context next to the post of mine that you printed in front of it.
    Last edited by haymarket; 07-21-13 at 05:14 PM.
    __________________________________________________ _
    There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.... John Rogers

  7. #267
    Educator

    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Kingdom of Nigh
    Last Seen
    10-13-17 @ 11:25 AM
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    1,152

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and what about the people whose pensions are at risk? do we have to give them nothing?
    There will be some deal made to protect at least some portion of those pensions.

    I remember back in the 70's when government employees pensions were a hot debate topic. People warned that the pensions that were being bargained for then were not sustainable, add 35 years & additional "negotiations" and we have Detroit along with many other communities having to go bankrupt because they dont have the money to fulfill the obligation.

    This is one of the down falls of politicians negotiating with unions with your money.
    Know the truth and the truth will make you mad, because the truth has no agenda.

  8. #268
    Sage
    mac's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2010
    Location
    DC Metro
    Last Seen
    11-13-16 @ 12:58 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    22,499

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, that is not what happened. Orr filed bankruptcy without negotiating.
    That's not what I read, can you show me a link to the source of your information?
    ”People willing to trade their freedom for temporary security deserve neither and will lose both.” --- Ben Franklin

    Quote Originally Posted by The German View Post
    Sterotypes are mostly based on truths.

  9. #269
    Sage
    JC Callender's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Metro Detroit
    Last Seen
    12-08-17 @ 05:51 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    5,632

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Doing good here, thanks! The reason I asked about replacing the city government is that there has been rampant crime and corruption at least since the 70's. I'm assuming that as soon as the EM is done with his job, Detroit will start to sink back into their old position again. I believe that the people of Detroit should be responsible for what happens there, as they've voted their own representatives in. A person in Detroit should either leave or be actively involved in ending the corruption, but they shouldn't be waiting for outsiders to fix their problems. I think help from outside at this point, other than a good escape plan, would enable the city further, as there is already a strong entitlement attitude there.



    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning JC - I'm well and hope you're doing ok too.

    I'm not sure what it would involve or if it would be necessary to "remove" the city government and install a new one - I was referring to the State's ability to install an Emergency Manager, as they've recently done, suspending the authority of the city government and giving that authority/power to the EM. I'm not sure if the State also has the power to remove the city government and call for new elections, but if the EM has all the power it wouldn't be necessary. I was suggesting the State should have acted long ago considering the financial problems and corruption.

  10. #270
    Curmudgeon


    LowDown's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Houston
    Last Seen
    Today @ 12:07 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian
    Posts
    11,566
    Blog Entries
    11

    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, it has become impossible for government to pay its debt and Bruce Bartlett has a different spin on it. He says it is because of starve the beast economics. After reading about what happened in CA I have to say he has some fantastic points.
    They have the highest taxes around. What kind of moron calls that "starve the beast"?

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." --HL Mencken

Page 27 of 60 FirstFirst ... 17252627282937 ... LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •