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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

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    And this vast empty land full of riches, ripe for the taking is where?
    There are islands for sale. Other nations welcome immigrants. But that choice is yours and not mine to make.

    The Pilgrims were not exactly answering a TV marketing campaign promising a land of milk and honey and sandy beaches with cold drinks with umbrellas in them now were they?
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Legitimacy is in the eye of the beholder. And the beholder that counts in this land is the peoples government which determines if something is legitimate or not.
    even if we decide to bail out detroit, that does not create the obligation to do so.

    And the people's government long ago gave up trying to determine if something was legitimate or not. They decided to let the Courts do that for them, and abrogated their responsibility thereafter.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

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    But I like how you so quickly reach for the "give me money or else" stick. Thank you for demonstrating so ably the particular nature of your side.
    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    Statists only know how to use violence to accomplish their ends. The comment you noted highlights this fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    even if we decide to bail out detroit, that does not create the obligation to do so.

    And the people's government long ago gave up trying to determine if something was legitimate or not. They decided to let the Courts do that for them, and abrogated their responsibility thereafter.
    If the peoples government decides accordingly and part of your taxes are used for it - the matter is closed.
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    That is up to you to decide if you want to meet your legal obligations should you be asked to. Although the alternatives are not pleasant.
    I'm not legally obligated to bail out Detroit.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Yeah - one never knows when British King George will rise from the grave and tax tea again causing Yankee Doodle to have to pawn his tri-cornered hat.
    My calendar says 2013. You might want to check yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail.

    Statists only know how to use violence to accomplish their ends. The comment you noted highlights this fact.
    Have you recently converted to anarchism Federalist?
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    The hypocrisy of the libertarian is their constant carping, their non stop whining, their perpetual bitching, their litany of complaints, and their notebook filled with sobs all about the terrible system we live in which oppresses freedom and liberty and constrains them and their beliefs...... but they still stay, they still enjoy the fruits of a cooperative society that they appear to despise.... they still enjoy the benefits of a government they profess to oppose and some even loathe. They attack eminent domain but yet use our airports, our roads, our infrastructure which was produced using the constitutional power. They ;whine and cry about zoning laws but enjoy living in communities with zoning laws that improve and protect their quality of life. They attack public employees but reap the benefits of their education and labor and the services they provide.

    I think that covers enough for the time being.
    Since I am compelled by law to pay for those things, it is not hypocrisy to utilize them. How is it possible that you cant grasp this? Tell you what, stop confiscating my wealth for things I do not approve of and I wont use them. Deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Federalist View Post
    My calendar says 2013. You might want to check yours.
    Terrific.... you have learned a lesson I taught you in the past. Well done young man. Really well done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Since I am compelled by law to pay for those things, it is not hypocrisy to utilize them.
    Actually - it is. Perhaps you are familiar with truths like judge a man by his actions and not his words?
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