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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yes, at one time people who worked in the auto industry in Detroit made a middle income living. New hires no longer will get that option. They are being hired at half the price as the older workers which depresses wages in the area.
    But, I thought the savior Obama fixed all that auto stuff.
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    funny thing is that the reason the judge ruled the bankruptcy filing unconstitutional was because it violated a provision of the michigan state constitution. anyone know what the judge based its ruling on.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    But, I thought the savior Obama fixed all that auto stuff.
    Would you like to explain to me how Obama was a savior and fixed the auto industry. TIA

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    funny thing is that the reason the judge ruled the bankruptcy filing unconstitutional was because it violated a provision of the michigan state constitution. anyone know what the judge based its ruling on.
    from the USA today article

    Aquilina said the Michigan Constitution prohibits actions that will lessen the pension benefits of public employees, including those in the city of Detroit. Snyder and Orr violated the constitution by going ahead with the bankruptcy filing, because they know reductions in those benefits will result, Aquilina said.
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yup, the Obama honoring judge found it unconstitutional.... as expected.

    so when i specifically say i don't want these retirees to feel any pain, you take away that i'm in favor of screwing the common man.... mmmk... that makes perfect sense.




    it's true, the LP is way behind hte Democratic party on hte scoreboard.

    y'all have lots of presidential wins... we got none.
    y'all have lots of elected office wins at every level of government.. we have very little in comparison.

    and of course, y'all have utterly ruined a major US city... we haven't.

    congratulations on your accomplishments!
    Ruined a city? What nonsense.

    Why do you continue to beat the stupid political drum of blaming the Democratic Party when the real factors of Detroit's decline have nothing to do with who was the mayor and what his party was? btw - not to blow your mind with reality or anything - but the elections for mayor of Detroit are NON PARTISAN.
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I think they did by lowering wages. That really is the point. Of course, the consequence of that is growing a whole new work force of people working for a living on the brink of poverty. You won't be growing a middle class.
    whatever steps, if any, were taken to attract and keep new business ventures were an abysmal failure.

    there will be no middle class growth until the business environment improves.... it's simply a horrible business environment to operate in, and it's getting worse, day by day.
    why pay exorbitant tax rates on income, property, and inventory when you can choose from a long list of other places that don't have these?

    unfortunately, business now also has to deal with a deeply flawed talent pool ... the good talent moved away long ago

    it's a mess...it's gonna take a lot of creativity, and a lot of hard work and sacrifice to bring that city back.... the Detroit of the 40's is dead, folks need to understand that and work in the NOW.. stuff that was good in the 40's was good in the 40's, but today, it's dead.... for better or worse, it's a entirely different world, 1940's rules don't apply.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Would you like to explain to me how Obama was a savior and fixed the auto industry. TIA

    Are you joking or have you been hiding under a rock?
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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Ruined a city? What nonsense.

    Why do you continue to beat the stupid political drum of blaming the Democratic Party when the real factors of Detroit's decline have nothing to do with who was the mayor and what his party was? btw - not to blow your mind with reality or anything - but the elections for mayor of Detroit are NON PARTISAN.
    yes, ruined a city..

    you can try to pretend Detroit is anything but a Democratic stronghold and has been for decades....that's fine

    the fact remains, the Detroit city government has been SOLID blue since the mid-60's.... y'all own it... and y'all broke it.... and y'all have been found to be wholly incapable of fixing it.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Those here of a rabid partisan nature who keep wanting to scream ITS THE DAMN DEMOCRATS may want a dose of reality. From 1950 to 1961, Detroit had two mayors - Cobo and Mariani. Both were members of the Republican Party. During that same period, Detroit saw the beginning of its decline and lost a full 10% of its population.

    So much for the partisan blame game.

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    re: Judge rules Detroit bankruptcy filing UNCONSTITUTIONAL[W:584]

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes, ruined a city..

    you can try to pretend Detroit is anything but a Democratic stronghold and has been for decades....that's fine

    the fact remains, the Detroit city government has been SOLID blue since the mid-60's.... y'all own it... and y'all broke it.... and y'all have been found to be wholly incapable of fixing it.
    See the above post and see the facts. Sorry to rain on your parade but Cobo and Mariani were both republicans. And Detroit lost nearly 200,000 people during their reign. And that trend established under their rule did not abate once the slide down the hill was started.

    I know its a real bitch when facts bite you in the ass like that.

    And of course, the loss of tax base, the loss of manufacturing, the loss of jobs, racial polarization.... had nothing to do with it as it was all politics. How completely absurd.

    But the far right likes to hate both Detroit and Democrats so its a no brain twofer for them. Emphasis on no brain.
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