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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    200 rounds in 30 minutes, well some practice well placed shots and some practice how fast they can miss...

    I suppose this is as good a time as any to remind everyone there is a difference between a one way range and out on the street when it comes to rate of ammo consumption.

    Pistol shooting is where i have the fastest rate of consumption- a few weekends ago two former students and my wife joined me at the range. it took us two hours to burn up 200 rounds but then again we only had 6 13 round mags between us, and practiced several different techniques beyond just how fast we could empty a mag...

    Always amazed me the number of folks who try and compare what they do on a one way range with what really happens when the paper gets to shoot back...

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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    The part that I found more talk worthy is....



    Umm..excuse me? Its a felony offense to "bear" arms now? Last I knew the 2nd Amendment does not say that people have a right to keep and bear arms "only as long as you are in your home or buisness". Kind of makes me wonder if he didn't do what he did so that law could be challenged in a court. In which case...more power to him. I'll eagerly await the decision of SCOTUS on this one.
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    DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER

    Like most rights, the Second Amendment right is not unlimited. It is not a right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever and for whatever purpose: For example, concealed weapons prohibitions have been upheld under the Amendment or state analogues. The Court’s opinion should not be taken to cast doubt on longstanding prohibitions on the possession of firearms by felons and the mentally ill, or laws forbidding the carrying of firearms in sensitive places such as schools and government buildings, or laws imposing conditions and qualifications on the commercial sale of arms
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    You really shouldn't type when you don't know what you are talking about.


    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Or about six seconds if you open fire in view of the White House. (including the time it takes for your bullet-riddled corpse to slump to the ground)

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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Is this supposed to be an argument in favor of gun ownership?
    No it's just a fact.
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Then you are really going to hate this news..

    “Defensive uses of guns by crime victims is a common occurrence, although the exact number remains disputed (Cook and Ludwig, 1996; Kleck, 2001a),” the study reads. “Almost all national survey estimates indicate that defensive gun uses by victims are at least as common as offensive uses by criminals, with estimates of annual uses ranging from about 500,000 to more than 3 million per year (Kleck, 2001a), in the context of about 300,000 violent crimes involving firearms in 2008 (BJS, 2010).”
    Remember your whole gun safety bit? Well, more bad news. Unintentional firearm-related deaths are less than 1% of all firearm-related incidents. Do you guys have any case at all left after this bang up job by Obama and friends?

    He orders an unconstitutional study and then cuts his own nuts off by it. GG..

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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    Its too early to assume he's conservative.
    But it's not to early to assume he was just a little nuts!
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then you are really going to hate this news..



    Remember your whole gun safety bit? Well, more bad news. Unintentional firearm-related deaths are less than 1% of all firearm-related incidents. Do you guys have any case at all left after this bang up job by Obama and friends?
    Kleck?

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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Tererun, you're cracking me up!!! good posts!

    Re CDC study - remember, the NRA leaned on Congress who then banned CDC from spending any money on studying the causes of gun violence.

    Pres. Obama's executive order at least let CDC start studying it.

    Seriously, folks, why WOULDN'T we want the CDC to study it? How can we know what laws have a chance of working without a study? How can we decide if a PSA campaign might help? We're blind without data. There are private foundations doing it, but we need the CDC to do it.

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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    You can wait all you like, but that bus has already left the station

    DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA v. HELLER
    What you just posted there was an opinion made by a judge as pertaining to that case. It does not address this specific instance. The cops did not arrest Briggs for carrying a gun in an gun free zone or a "government bulding" as he was not in one. They arrested him for carrying a gun outside of a home or business. Now unless there is a law which states that the whole of DC is a gun free zone then the law should be challenged. The only way to challenge any law enough to get up to SCOTUS is to have standing. The only way to have standing is by showing that (in this case) you are not allowed to carry a gun in public. IE, get arrested for carrying a gun outside of your home or business.
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    We do have the right to end our own lives. You know, the whole controlling your destiny thing. Besides, its a mental health problem, not a gun problem. Guns are just a means to an end and if you ban them they will just pick other means towards that end.
    Other means can be slower or more difficult to use.

    And the important thing is to get the data... to figure out what's going on for real so then policies can address real problems. We've all been saying (well, all of us but Congress) that more money needs to be put into mental health; if the study supports that, great! Now we know it may help address gun deaths. So have the republicans in the Congress been calling for a national mental health care system now that the CDC has reported on this? Please provide the link where they are calling for increased funding and coverage for mental health... .

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