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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No point to you even pretending to have any intellectual integrity in your messages, huh?

    In terms of "gun murder" rates per 100,000, Texas is not #2 whatsoever. Not in the top 10. The highest rate is DC and the greatest number is in California due to population.
    Actually, if you read Erod's message - he says "a LOT more people die in Illinois from gun violence than Texas". That's not true. Texas is second to California in gun murders. It's #16 in gun murders, then again Illinois is #29. Texas beats Illinois in EVERY measurement related to gun violence except for one. That one being restrictions on gun violence. Whereas Texas scores a 5 (for least restrictive), Illinois scores a 26 (for most restrictive).

    So in conclusion:

    Erod doesn't know anything about Illinois crime or for that matter crime in his state.
    Erod thinks his state is safer than Illinois, against all evidence to the contrary.
    Erod hasn't seen a crime statistic in the last 10 year.
    Erod doesn't know that despite Texas being one of the most gun happy states in the union, it has managed to get higher murder/gun murder rates than a pretty gun restrictive state like Illinois.

    Nothing new really.
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Actually, if you read Erod's message - he says "a LOT more people die in Illinois from gun violence than Texas". That's not true. Texas is second to California in gun murders. It's #16 in gun murders, then again Illinois is #29. Texas beats Illinois in EVERY measurement related to gun violence except for one. That one being restrictions on gun violence. Whereas Texas scores a 5 (for least restrictive), Illinois scores a 26 (for most restrictive).

    So in conclusion:

    Erod doesn't know anything about Illinois crime or for that matter crime in his state.
    Erod thinks his state is safer than Illinois, against all evidence to the contrary.
    Erod hasn't seen a crime statistic in the last 10 year.
    Erod doesn't know that despite Texas being one of the most gun happy states in the union, it has managed to get higher murder/gun murder rates than a pretty gun restrictive state like Illinois.

    Nothing new really.
    None of this matters to conservatives. All that matters is that they strut around talking high and mighty about themselves, their beliefs, their perceived superiority to everyone else. They will take their selfish, delusional nonsense to the grave, never realizing how their ignorance made life unnecessarily more difficult for everyone else.

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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Verax View Post
    None of this matters to conservatives. All that matters is that they strut around talking high and mighty about themselves, their beliefs, their perceived superiority to everyone else. They will take their selfish, delusional nonsense to the grave, never realizing how their ignorance made life unnecessarily more difficult for everyone else.
    Nah dude, it's not even like that. There are some pretty reasonable people on the pro-gun conservative side. Then you have your idiots who make up crazy theories like "more guns, less crime". If that were true Sub-Saharan Africa, the Muslim Middle East and Brazilian favelas would be great places to go vacation and yet, they're some of the most violent places on Earth. Mexico is full of guns and crime there is terrible. Where are the places with least crime? First countries that come to mind are Canada, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, etc with their supposedly draconian anti-gun cultures.

    It's really mind boggling. Around the world you have these places where guns are a dime a dozen and they're full of crime. Then you have other places where guns are highly restricted and there is little crime. How can you begin to seriously attribute the number of guns to the level of crime? Well, if anything guns show us two things. The more there are, the more people will use them to kill each other.
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nah dude, it's not even like that. There are some pretty reasonable people on the pro-gun conservative side. Then you have your idiots who make up crazy theories like "more guns, less crime". If that were true Sub-Saharan Africa, the Muslim Middle East and Brazilian favelas would be great places to go vacation and yet, they're some of the most violent places on Earth. Mexico is full of guns and crime there is terrible. Where are the places with least crime? First countries that come to mind are Canada, Japan, Norway, Switzerland, etc with their supposedly draconian anti-gun cultures.

    It's really mind boggling. Around the world you have these places where guns are a dime a dozen and they're full of crime. Then you have other places where guns are highly restricted and there is little crime. How can you begin to seriously attribute the number of guns to the level of crime? Well, if anything guns show us two things. The more there are, the more people will use them to kill each other.
    After reading many threads from the Gun section, Zimmerman, etc. I have a hard time believing there are many reasonable conservatives out there, at least not on this forum. I see hate, racism, ignorance, they say the most terrible things as though it is perfectly normal. Perhaps there are reasonable ones but they are so overshadowed as to not be noticed.

    Yeah I know you would think it would set off a few bells but, they don't want to believe getting rid of guns is a good thing because they like their guns. They're also very fearful people, so they cling to them for reassurance.

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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    At this point it is virtually impossible to extract any reasonable line of argument from either side here. That's... That's impressive.
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No point to you even pretending to have any intellectual integrity in your messages, huh?

    In terms of "gun murder" rates per 100,000, Texas is not #2 whatsoever. Not in the top 10. The highest rate is DC and the greatest number is in California due to population.
    hrmm... this is what I responded to:

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod
    a LOT more people die in Illinois from gun violence than Texas
    That said nothing about per 100,000... and that is what I quoted. So yes, I still maintained intellectual integrity in my post being that I responded to exactly what was stated. What is lacking however is any intellectual reading comprehension in your messages, huh?
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    To address the original story, this guy is either terminally stupid or...

    Gawddammit it's a liberal con-spiracy! Ah tell you that nobody nohow would do this un-less the Gobernment told them to! They're ony doin' this to take away our Second Amendment rahts as Amuricans!

    Probably one of those.
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    To address the original story, this guy is either terminally stupid or...

    Gawddammit it's a liberal con-spiracy! Ah tell you that nobody nohow would do this un-less the Gobernment told them to! They're ony doin' this to take away our Second Amendment rahts as Amuricans!

    Probably one of those.
    If they arrested everyone who carried a gun near the White House the jails would be overflowing. It is DC you know!
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    If they arrested everyone who carried a gun near the White House the jails would be overflowing. It is DC you know!
    ...and if they arrested everyone who carried a gun, 200 rounds of ammunition, said he wanted to fire "a couple shots", and was arrested by the Secret Service you would have.... this guy.
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    Re: Armed man arrested near White House wanted ‘fire a couple of shots,’ police say

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    ...and if they arrested everyone who carried a gun, 200 rounds of ammunition, said he wanted to fire "a couple shots", and was arrested by the Secret Service you would have.... this guy.
    And miss the other 99.9999999999% of people carrying guns. Great job!
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