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    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    You are inventing BS. The Apache was firing on what it thought was enemy combatants. It did not intentionally target a Reuters news crew - that's ludicrous, unfounded and, frankly, disconnected.
    I never said it intentionally fired upon a Reuters crew, never once. YOU said that, attributing it to me.

    No sir, probably unlike yourself, I actually listened to the tapes. Having been in the Army, and still being a radio monitor, I understand exactly what happened. It was certainly unfortunate, and to some degree understandable.

    The crew lost all benefit of the doubt with the remark to the effect "they should not bring children to a gunfight". That, as they fired on the van full of good samaritans who were there only to render aid to the wounded from the first burst.

    You would be amazed at what you might discover when doing your own research instead of just repeating government talking points.

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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I never said it intentionally fired upon a Reuters crew, never once. YOU said that, attributing it to me.
    If it was an accident, then how was it a war crime (~"like My Lai")?


    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    The Apache crew, and their superiors ALL THE WAY UP the chain of command, committed war crimes in the same fashion that William Calley did at My Lai.
    You're claiming that the president was responsible as well, a total disconnect. This BS belongs in the conspiracy theory subforum.

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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
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    Good, then you ought to know what I'm talking about regarding the chain of command. I was commissioned at Fort Bragg in the summer of 1969.

    Now if you would view the tapes and listen to them, we might get somewhere.

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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    If it was an accident, then how was it a war crime (~"like My Lai")?
    See post #51, the one you SUPPOSEDLY already read. Jeezus.

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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I never said it intentionally fired upon a Reuters crew, never once. YOU said that, attributing it to me.

    No sir, probably unlike yourself, I actually listened to the tapes. Having been in the Army, and still being a radio monitor, I understand exactly what happened. It was certainly unfortunate, and to some degree understandable.

    The crew lost all benefit of the doubt with the remark to the effect "they should not bring children to a gunfight". That, as they fired on the van full of good samaritans who were there only to render aid to the wounded from the first burst.

    You would be amazed at what you might discover when doing your own research instead of just repeating government talking points.
    First, I was not a dirty nasty leg. Second, I've done plenty of research. Third, your position is BS - hysterical fantasy invented through a disconnect - an attempt to demonize not only the US military but the president himself. I find it pathetic.

    As no charges have been brought against the Apache crew, how do you explain your twisted and totally unsupported position as anything more than frantic and imaginary.

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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Good, then you ought to know what I'm talking about regarding the chain of command. I was commissioned at Fort Bragg in the summer of 1969.

    Now if you would view the tapes and listen to them, we might get somewhere.

    I've viewed and listened to them, and I think your position is paranoid, hateful, hysterical, panicked, disconnected fantasy.

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    US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I've viewed and listened to them, and I think your position is paranoid, hateful, hysterical, panicked, disconnected fantasy.
    That's the way some people can be; no amount of evidence and logic will ever suffice. When presented with overwhelming evidence they just claim it's made up by big brother etc. Those who've never been in the fog of war are quick to make assumptions and Monday morning quarterback- pathetic...

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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    To prove that he aided the enemy the prosecution would have to prove that Manning had "actual knowledge" that by passing documents to WikiLeaks he was giving information to an enemy of the US.
    Hey, listen - I don't think Manning should get a tough sentence but are you saying that he didn't realize WikiLeaks was going to release the information to the world - which I'll remind you - includes enemies of the US?
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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    First, I was not a dirty nasty leg. Second, I've done plenty of research. Third, your position is BS - hysterical fantasy invented through a disconnect - an attempt to demonize not only the US military but the president himself. I find it pathetic.

    As no charges have been brought against the Apache crew, how do you explain your twisted and totally unsupported position as anything more than frantic and imaginary.
    That's nothing--no charges have been brought against anybody from either the Bush or the Obama administrations who have violated the letter of numerous laws. Who cares about 2 warrant officers getting excited about killing civilians? Nancy Pelosi went so far as to stop the imminent impeachment proceedings brought by Kucinich, Wexler, and others.

    I know how the system works Ecofarm. That you so strongly support such a corrupt system tells me all I need to know about your character.

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    Re: US judge rules not to drop Manning charge

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    I know how the system works Ecofarm. That you so strongly support such a corrupt system tells me all I need to know about your character.
    I'd rather be worried about my character than my sanity.

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