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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

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    I hope this developes a little more. I think he is making an important point.
    I never thought I would see the day when a Libertarian would say Jimmy Carter is making a important point

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No. His idiotic statement presupposes the necessity of an internet as a precondition for democracy. Otherwise, observation of the activity on it could not effect democracy.
    It would still affect democracy. There's other pieces involved, but the internet is big enough now that it would have an effect.


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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It would still affect democracy. There's other pieces involved, but the internet is big enough now that it would have an effect.
    If you equate "democracy" with "mass action". It could just as easily help democracy as harm it.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    America has never had a functioning democracy

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    America has never had a functioning democracy
    That is debateable. But in terms of the last 50 years or so, you're quite right.

    Certainly the rule of law is dead.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Quote Originally Posted by instagramsci View Post
    America has never had a functioning democracy
    That depends on what you think a democracy is.
    Americans are so enamored of equality that they would rather be equal in slavery than unequal in freedom.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Quote Originally Posted by j-mac View Post
    That depends on what you think a democracy is.
    I think Mr Carter misspoke. It has nothing to do with democracy. It has everything to do with government gone wild and corrupt.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Quote Originally Posted by fmw View Post
    I think Mr Carter misspoke. It has nothing to do with democracy. It has everything to do with government gone wild and corrupt.
    To the extent that being governed in accordance with democratic principles means that the government is controlled by the people by way of their elected representatives, then it has everything to do with democracy.

    If a loose definition of democracy is that the consent of the governed is required for government actions, and that the general will of the people determine government policy, then we're not even close to being governed in accorance with democratic principles.

    I think that was Carter's point, and he's spot on. Sad, but true.

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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Indeed, it is quite surprising to see Carter making important, relevant, and factual statements regarding our government's system of corruption and tyranny.
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    Re: Jimmy Carter: ‘America no longer has a functioning democracy’

    Quote Originally Posted by Morrigi View Post
    Indeed, it is quite surprising to see Carter making important, relevant, and factual statements regarding our government's system of corruption and tyranny.
    Actually, for the last 10 years or more Carter has been making important, relevant and factual statements regarding the government's system of corruption and tyranny. This latest may be the best, but he's been offering such honest criticism for many years.

    It won't be talked about by Brian Williams or Diane Sawyer, but he's been making them.

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