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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    Why not? What is the legal argument? There is no reasonable expectation of privacy when you do something in public.
    Why must I need a reasonable exception of privacy so that government doesn't spy on me? Why can't they just not, you know, do it.

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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why must I need a reasonable exception of privacy so that government doesn't spy on me? Why can't they just not, you know, do it.
    What else would you try to argue? 'I don't like it' isn't exactly a persuasive legal argument if you want it stopped.

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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    How dare they record what intersections I drive through, one more of my freedoms flushed down the drain! Maybe I should only take public transit now so they can't track me, oh wait that's a government service I would never use that!

    ..... it's one thing to be mad at internet and phone record privacy invasion, but lets be real here, if you feel threatened by this then you have to be paranoid, why do you care if they know you drove through a certain intersection at a certain time? If a criminal stole a certain car they can search records to see if that car was in the area etc.... it actually is a pretty efficient way to solve crimes and what not.
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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post
    What else would you try to argue? 'I don't like it' isn't exactly a persuasive legal argument if you want it stopped.
    Sorry, but the government must warrant it's actions, not the other way around. I don't need to make an argument on they can't do something, they must tell me why they can. Saying that I can't expect privacy in a given situation is not good enough. They should not be able to log my daily affairs and keep them on record nor should they be able to watch me on the street with devices for police purposes. If they want to watch me they can get out there and put cops on the streets. I imagine a cop on every corner and not a camera though will make people like yourself start thinking to.

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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by JayGatsby View Post
    How dare they record what intersections I drive through, one more of my freedoms flushed down the drain! Maybe I should only take public transit now so they can't track me, oh wait that's a government service I would never use that!
    What about side walks or other areas they watch right this very minute? Are you fine with that? Do you like your big brother? Does he keep you safe enough yet? Why don't you get him to watch you and not me, ok?

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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Sorry, but the government must warrant it's actions, not the other way around. I don't need to make an argument on they can't do something, they must tell me why they can. Saying that I can't expect privacy in a given situation is not good enough. They should not be able to log my daily affairs and keep them on record nor should they be able to watch me on the street with devices for police purposes. If they want to watch me they can get out there and put cops on the streets. I imagine a cop on every corner and not a camera though will make people like yourself start thinking to.
    That is only 50% correct. You have to have legal standing to file suit in the first place. If you cant make a good argument that your rights were violated then you'll never see a courtroom.

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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    What about side walks or other areas they watch right this very minute? Are you fine with that? Do you like your big brother? Does he keep you safe enough yet? Why don't you get him to watch you and not me, ok?
    Yes, I am. I'm not going to do anything out on a sidewalk that I wouldn't do in a crowded public area. If I want to do something I don't want anyone else to be witness to, I do it in the privacy of my home. Why can't you? What exactly is the big deal?

    And the justification for this was already given and it is more than reasonable to stand up in court that pics of cars in public areas can stop crimes, help prevent crimes, and even solve crimes. It doesn't target any specific person at all. And it is no more invasive than a police officer being out on the street watching you or some random person filming you.
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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Yes, I am. I'm not going to do anything out on a sidewalk that I wouldn't do in a crowded public area. If I want to do something I don't want anyone else to be witness to, I do it in the privacy of my home. Why can't you? What exactly is the big deal?
    Why must the government be watching just in case I do something? Is it any of their business 99.9% of the time what I'm doing on the side walk? Why do they care so much that they have to log everything I do on the side walk??

    And the justification for this was already given and it is more than reasonable to stand up in court that pics of cars in public areas can stop crimes, help prevent crimes, and even solve crimes. It doesn't target any specific person at all. And it is no more invasive than a police officer being out on the street watching you or some random person filming you.
    I don't care what bull**** safety big brother bull**** they give. If I wanted a big brother I would move to England and give up my free speech rights.

    And guess what? A lot of things can stop crimes. Big ****ing whoopy doo.

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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    If you don't care about giving the government information than you really don't understand that information is the most powerful resource known to man. If I wanted the government to know everything there was to know about me I would walk over to them and tell them all there is to know.

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    Re: Driving somewhere? There's a gov't record of that

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Why must the government be watching just in case I do something? Is it any of their business 99.9% of the time what I'm doing on the side walk? Why do they care so much that they have to log everything I do on the side walk??

    I don't care what bull**** safety big brother bull**** they give. If I wanted a big brother I would move to England and give up my free speech rights.

    And guess what? A lot of things can stop crimes. Big ****ing whoopy doo.
    It's not "just in case YOU do something". It is for those people who are doing something and can be tracked down more easily when their car is spotted on a public fareway. Do you feel that you are being watched or targeted specifically for some reason?
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