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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Well, I think there should be a balance between self-defense and excessive use of force. SYG tips the balance to the latter. I can't support that.

    I can support it... but then again, i'm not one for the nonsense of proportional use of force either.. if I'm justifiably defending myself, there's no amount of force that I would consider "excessive".

    there is no balancing act, to me, between self defense and excessive use if force.... the balancing act, to me, is more about the assailant and victim, and I'm utterly unsympathetic to perpetrators, so i don't care if they have any legs to stand on...I'm definitely supportive of tilting the scales towards the victims.
    I'm also utterly supportive of proper LEO investigation to ensure the victim is really a victim and not an assailant... i'm not unreasonbable

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

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    It has begun.

    What do you think?

    LOL !!!

    What has begun ? The Criminal AG responds to people who've completley bought into a huge manufactured False Narrative ?

    Wow.....when Black young men and ACTUAL Children are dying from gunshot wounds on a almost daily basis in the South Side of Chicago.

    What a pathetically corrupt and just stupid ideology.

    Take the rights away from private citizens to defend theirselves, their property and their families from the scum the thug culture creates because the NAACP aren't happy with the verdict.

    Unreal.

    The only good thing is a administration this corrupt will eventually collapse in on itself as voters take note of the disaster thats happening right before them.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    I think that laws restricting one from exercising reasonable self defense are asinine. Every situation is different and sometimes retreating is the absolute LAST thing you should do. Just to give a hypothetical - you're in a bar and a group of four people are giving you a hard time. Three of those people head out the front door but the third keeps on verbally harassing and threatening you. Is it really a good idea to leave the bar?
    Here's another one. Someone is on top of you MMA style beating your head into the concrete. Do you have the option to retreat before being able to use deadly force, i. e. Stand Your Ground?
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
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    It has begun.

    What do you think?
    That Chicago gangster can go **** himself.
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

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    That Chicago gangster can go **** himself.
    I think he's a D.C. gangster, by way of the Bronx... but yeah, self fornication is wise advice.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    LOL !!!

    What has begun ? The Criminal AG responds to people who've completley bought into a huge manufactured False Narrative ?

    Wow.....when Black young men and ACTUAL Children are dying from gunshot wounds on a almost daily basis in the South Side of Chicago.

    What a pathetically corrupt and just stupid ideology.

    Take the rights away from private citizens to defend theirselves, their property and their families from the scum the thug culture creates because the NAACP aren't happy with the verdict.

    Unreal.

    The only good thing is a administration this corrupt will eventually collapse in on itself as voters take note of the disaster thats happening right before them.
    Wishful thinking, I'm afraid.

    What would be lovely would be Al Sharpton turning his focus to Chicago.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
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    It has begun.

    What do you think?
    Eric Holder obviously hates Hispanics.
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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    I don't know about that, but I do know that Eric Holder's contempt of Congress and everything else makes him unfit to serve as AG.

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    Re: Holder speaks out against 'Stand Your Ground' laws after Zimmerman verdict

    The fact that SYG laws didnt come into play in the trial or the jury verdict speaks volumes. Never let a good crisis go to waste.

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